Stokes' Theorem on Intersection of Cone and Cylinder

In summary, the conversation is discussing a question involving the evaluation of a line integral using Stokes' theorem. The surface in question is on a cone, and the surface's parameters are found using polar coordinates. The conversation also touches on the use of the curl(F) and the correct method for finding the z component of the vector dS.
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Homework Statement



Note: the bullets in the equations are dot products, the X are cross products

Evaluate: [over curve c][tex]\oint[/tex]( F [tex]\bullet[/tex] dr ) where F = < exp(x^2), x + sin(y^2) , z> and C is the curve formed by the intersection of the cone: z = [tex]\sqrt{(x^2 + y^2)}[/tex] and the cylinder: x^2 + (y-1)^2 = 1 oriented CCW looking down from + z axis

Homework Equations



I'm assuming this is a Stokes' theorem question, so:

[over curve C][tex]\oint[/tex] F [tex]\bullet[/tex] dr = [over surface S][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]( curl(F) [tex]\bullet[/tex] dS)


The Attempt at a Solution



First, the surface looks like it's on the cone, so paramaterizing the cone in polar coordinates:

(S) r(t,r) = < rcost , rsint , r >

now for finding curl(F) i did: gradient X F = <0,0,1>

So according to the equation mentioned above,


[over curve C][tex]\oint[/tex] F [tex]\bullet[/tex] dr = [over surface S][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]( curl(F) [tex]\bullet[/tex] dS)

and: [over surface S][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex]( curl(F) [tex]\bullet[/tex] dS) = [over domain D][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex] curl(F) [tex]\bullet[/tex] < r(partial derivative with t) X r(partial derivative with r) > dA

so i found curl(F) already, < r(partial with t) X r(partial with r) > = <rcost, rsint, -r> , and dA = rdrdt
the domain is the domain of the parameters, (t,r), so plugging in the cylinder equation i get:

r = 2sint, so: 0 < r < 2sint and 0 < t < pi , and plugging all that in i get:

[tex]\int[/tex][0<t<pi][tex]\int[/tex][0<r<2sint] <0,0,1> [tex]\bullet[/tex] <rcost,rsint,-t> r dr dt

i get this down to (-8/2)[tex]\int[/tex][0 to pi] (sint)^3 dt which is = -32/9.

I know the answer is supposed to = pi , but I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks for your time!
 
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You don't really need to go to polar coordinates. Since the curl(F)=(0,0,1) you only need to find the z component of the vector dS. If you parameterize the cone as r=(x,y,sqrt(x^2+y^2)), just find the z component of dr/dx X dr/dy (both derivatives partial, of course). I think you'll find the integrand is constant over your domain.
 
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Thanks for the quick reply. I see your point, and I can solve it with your method. However, I can't quite see what's wrong with using polar coords, it feels like I'm doing the same thing.
 
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goliath11 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I see your point, and I can solve it with your method. However, I can't quite see what's wrong with using polar coords, it feels like I'm doing the same thing.

It's mostly right. What's wrong is the 'r' in dA=r*dr*dt. The cross product of the two tangent vectors already gives you that 'r'. If Tr and Tt are the two tangents, you should just have dS=Tr X Tt dr dt, not Tr X Tt r*dr*dt.
 

FAQ: Stokes' Theorem on Intersection of Cone and Cylinder

What is Stokes' Theorem?

Stokes' Theorem is a fundamental theorem in vector calculus that relates the surface integral of a vector field over a surface to the line integral of the same vector field around the boundary of the surface. It essentially states that the flux of a vector field through a closed surface is equal to the circulation of the same vector field around the boundary of the surface.

What is the significance of Stokes' Theorem?

Stokes' Theorem is significant because it allows us to solve surface integrals by converting them into line integrals, which are often easier to compute. It also provides a deeper understanding of the relationship between vector fields and their boundaries.

How is Stokes' Theorem related to Green's Theorem?

Stokes' Theorem is a generalization of Green's Theorem, which relates a line integral around a closed curve to a double integral over the region enclosed by the curve. Green's Theorem can be viewed as a special case of Stokes' Theorem when the surface is restricted to a plane.

What are the conditions for applying Stokes' Theorem?

In order for Stokes' Theorem to be applied, the surface must be oriented and have a continuous boundary curve. The vector field must also be differentiable in the region enclosed by the surface.

What are some practical applications of Stokes' Theorem?

Stokes' Theorem has various applications in physics and engineering, such as calculating the circulation of a fluid flow, determining the work done by a force field on a moving object, and analyzing electric or magnetic fields in electromagnetism.

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