Strange Relation: $\sum$ (m$^2$+n$^2$) = 2$\pi$ Integral

In summary, the conversation discusses a mathematical expression involving a sum and an integral. There is some confusion about the notation and the meaning of the expression, but it is eventually determined that the right side is an integral estimate for the sum. The integral is taken over the plane in polar coordinates and is a reasonable estimate for the sum.
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[tex]\sum\ (m^2+n^2) = 2\pi\int^{\infty}_{1} (\frac{1}{r^2} r dr) [/tex]

The sum goes over [tex]\mathbb{N}\times \mathbb{N}[/tex]
 
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Wait, that is what I mean.

[tex]\sum\ (m^2+n^2)^{-1} \sim 2 \pi\int^{\infty}_{1} (\frac{1}{r^2} r dr) [/tex]

The sum goes over [tex]\mathbb{N}\times \mathbb{N}[/tex]

I can make no sense of it.

Edit: Now everything fixed.
 
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The sum (m^2+n^2) clearly diverges. You must mean 1/(m^2+n^2). Then it's just an integral estimate. And it still diverges.
 
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And the right side makes no sense. In [itex]2\pi\int^{\infty}_{1} (\frac{1}{r^2} r dr) [/itex], "r" is clearly intended to be a vector (otherwise it reduces to [itex]\int 1/r dr= ln(r)[/itex]) in which case integrating from 1 to infinity doesn't make sense. My guess is that the right side is supposed to be integrated over all of R2.
 
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Dick said:
The sum (m^2+n^2) clearly diverges. You must mean 1/(m^2+n^2). Then it's just an integral estimate. And it still diverges.

Right, that's what I meant. I'm still fighting with latex.

What you mean by 'just an integral estimate'. Why are both expressions [tex]\sim[/tex]?

And, yes my book says too, it diverges.
 
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Icosahedron said:
[tex]\sum\ (m^2+n^2)^{-1} \sim 2 \pi\int^{\infty}_{1} (\frac{1}{r^2} r dr) [/tex]

The sum goes over [tex]\mathbb{N}\times \mathbb{N}[/tex]

I can make no sense of it.

Hi Icosahedron! :smile:

Looks like you're supposed to integrate something over x and y from 1 to ∞ which has poles "of integral 1/r²" whenever x and y are both whole numbers, and then convert to polar coordinates. :smile:
 
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The right side is the integral of 1/(x^2+y^2) over the plane (excluding some stuff near zero) in polar coordinates. It should be a reasonable estimate for the integer sum (also excluding (0,0), I hope). Just like the integral test for infinite series.
 
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Thanks!
 

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