Stuipd Simple Geometry Question

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In summary: Don't worry, you're not alone. It's a common problem for people who are good with numbers but not so good with algebra. In summary, the person is trying to solve a homework equation involving a+b+c, and they are having trouble remembering how to do it. They eventually find a simpler way that works, and they are impressed with the approach.
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Homework Statement


Ok, I need to find the dimensions of a triangle. I have the length of the hypotenuse(sp?) and a ratio of the other sides. And yes, in case you are wondering, I am figuring out TV dimensions. :-/


Homework Equations


If using a+b+c, I know c, and the values of A and B are a 16:9 ratio, what's the equation to solve?


The Attempt at a Solution


Dunno, that's why I am here. Forgive the simple question, but if you don't ask you won't know. TIA.
 
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I'm assuming you're looking for the values of a and b.

If you have the the lengths a:b in the ratio 16:9 then you have:

[tex]\frac{a}{b}=\frac{16}{9}[/tex]

and you're also using a right-angled triangle, so use pythagoras' theorem:

[tex]a^2+b^2=c^2[/tex]

So all you need to do is solve these two equations simultaneously since there are two variables to find (c is a constant since you know what it is).
 
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Forgive me but my algebra days are long gone. I remember some things but I couldn't figure out how to solve those two equations together. I just kept going round in circles.
So there has to be an easier way than what I figured out.
9^2 + 16^2 = c^2
81 + 256 = 337
then I took those number and made my own ratio
337 / 256 = 1.31640625
337 / 81 = 4.16049382
take those answers and use a different value for c, let's say 32
32 * 32 = 1024
1024 / 1.31640625 = 777.8753709
777.8753709^1/2(sqrt) = 27.890417 which equals b

1024 / 4.16049382 = 246.1246290
246.1246290^1/2(sqrt) = 15.6883596 which equals a

Then I just played around and found that a 15 by 28 measurement gives 31.7 which is actually what a 32" TV is measured at.

Again I say, there has to be an easier way.
 
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I couldn't quite follow everything you did, and there is a more straightforward way, so:

The ratio of the length and width of the TV is 16:9 , or let a/b = 16/9. We don't know what a or b are, so let's not assume or work with them as 16 or 9.
[tex]\frac{a}{b} = \frac{16}{9} \Longrightarrow a = \frac{16b}{9}[/tex]
Using the Pythagorean theorem for a TV with length and width a and b, and a diagonal length c of 32, we have a2 + b2 = 322 = 1,024.

Substitute a = 16b/9 into the previous equation to get
[tex]\left(\frac{16b}{9}\right)^2 + b^2 = 1024[/tex]

Solve for b, then substitute that value into a = 16b/9 to get a, and you'll have the width and length of a 32" TV screen.
 
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I am quite astounded at your approach to the problem. Especially since it simply worked :smile:
Such methods were probably the logic used before algebraic equations had been "invented".
 
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Bohrok said:
I couldn't quite follow everything you did, and there is a more straightforward way, so:

The ratio of the length and width of the TV is 16:9 , or let a/b = 16/9. We don't know what a or b are, so let's not assume or work with them as 16 or 9.
[tex]\frac{a}{b} = \frac{16}{9} \Longrightarrow a = \frac{16b}{9}[/tex]
Using the Pythagorean theorem for a TV with length and width a and b, and a diagonal length c of 32, we have a2 + b2 = 322 = 1,024.

Substitute a = 16b/9 into the previous equation to get
[tex]\left(\frac{16b}{9}\right)^2 + b^2 = 1024[/tex]

Solve for b, then substitute that value into a = 16b/9 to get a, and you'll have the width and length of a 32" TV screen.

I was trying to do that, but I couldn't remeber how to square a fraction with a variable in it. I think I did figure it out, finally.



Mentallic said:
I am quite astounded at your approach to the problem. Especially since it simply worked :smile:
Such methods were probably the logic used before algebraic equations had been "invented".

Welcome to most of my mathematics career. I can get the right answer, just not the conventional way. That caused a few issues with certain teachers.
 

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