Succession 5 numbers risen up to "3"

  • MHB
  • Thread starter mente oscura
  • Start date
  • Tags
    Numbers
In summary, the formulas presented generate solutions for the diophantine equation a^3=b^3+c^3+d^3 over the set of integers and rational numbers. These formulas have multiple parameters, such as n and p, that can be adjusted to generate different solutions. However, it is still unclear whether these formulas can generate all possible solutions or if there are any other patterns to be discovered.
  • #1
mente oscura
168
0
Hello.

I contribute a small study:

[tex]For : a, b, c, d, e, n \in{N} / a^3=b^3+c^3+d^3+e^3[/tex]

Family 1ª)

[tex]a=3n^6+3n^3+1[/tex]

[tex]b=3n^6+3n^3[/tex]

[tex]c=3n^4+2n[/tex]

[tex]d=n[/tex]

[tex]e=1^3[/tex]

Example:

[tex]For \ n=1 \ then: 7^3=6^3+5^3+1^3+1^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=2 \ then: 217^3=216^3+52^3+2^3+1^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=3 \ then: 2269^3=2268^3+249^3+3^3+1^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=4 \ then: 12481^3=12480^3+776^3+4^3+1^3[/tex]

...

Regards.
[tex][/tex]
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Nice! Also, if I may add, the Boutin's identity :

$$(-a+b+c)^3 + (a-b+c)^3 + (a+b-c)^3 + d^3 = (a+b+c)^3$$

where $24abc = d^3$. Another found by Piezas :

$$\left (11x^2+xy+14y^2 \right )^3 + \left (12x^2-3xy+13y^2 \right )^3 + \left (13x^2+3xy+12y^2 \right )^3 + \left (14x^2-xy+11y^2 \right )^3 = 20^3 \left (x^2+y^2 \right )^3$$

Balarka
.
 
Last edited:
  • #3
Hello.:)

Another:

[tex]a=192n^6-576n^5+720n^4-288n^3-108n^2+108n+43[/tex]

[tex]b=192n^6-576n^5+720n^4-288n^3-108n^2+108n-21[/tex]

[tex]c=192n^4-384n^3+288n^2+32n-52[/tex]

[tex]d=64n-32[/tex]

[tex]e=64[/tex]

Result:

[tex]For \ n=1 \ then \

91^3=27^3+76^3+32^3+64^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=2 \ then \

2899^3=2835^3+1164^3+96^3+64^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=3 \ then \

49939^3=49875^3+7820^3+160^3+64^3[/tex]

...

...

Regards.
 
  • #4
Hello.:)

Another:

[tex]a=6n^3+1[/tex]

[tex]b=6n^3-1[/tex]

[tex]c=6n^2[/tex]

[tex]d=1[/tex]

[tex]e=1[/tex]

Example:

[tex]For \ n=1 \ then \

7^3=5^3+6^3+1^3+1^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=2 \ then \

49^3=47^3+24^3+1^3+1^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=3 \ then \

163^3=161^3+54^3+1^3+1^3[/tex]

...

...
And, another:

[tex]a=192n^6-576n^5+720n^4-672n^3+468n^2+180n+91[/tex]

[tex]b=192n^6-576n^5+720n^4-672n^3+468n^2-180n+27[/tex]

[tex]c=192n^4-384n^3+288n^2-224n+76[/tex]

[tex]d=-64n+32[/tex]

[tex]e=64[/tex]

Result:

[tex]For \ n=1 \ then \

43^3=-21^3-52^3-32^3+64^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=2 \ then \

1603^3=1539^3+780^3-96^3+64^3[/tex]

[tex]For \ n=3 \ then \

43939^3=43875^3+7180^3-160^3+64^3[/tex]

...

...

Regards.
 
  • #5
Hello.

Another small study, that I already brought into other forums. I share it with you.

It is referred to 4 elements.
[tex]Let \ a, \ b, \ c, \ d, \ n, \ p \in{Z}/ a^3=b^3+c^3+d^3[/tex]

Succession family 1ª)

[tex]a=3n^3+3pn^2+2p^2n+p^3[/tex]

[tex]b=3n^3+3pn^2+2p^2n[/tex]

[tex]c=3pn^2+2p^2n+p^3[/tex]

[tex]d=p^2n[/tex]

Being "n" number of the sequence, and "p" the number that you want.

Regards.
 
  • #6
Ramanujan:

$$\left (3x^2+5xy-5y^2 \right)^3 + \left(4x^2-4xy+6y^2\right)^3 + \left(5x^2-5xy-3y^2\right)^3 = \left(6x^2-4xy+4y^2\right)^3$$

A well-known is Euler's:

$$(p+q)^3 + (p-q)^3 + (s-r)^3 = (r+s)^3 $$

with $(p, q, r, s)$ being

$$\left ( 3(bc-ad)\left(c^2+3d^2\right), \left(a^2+3b^2\right)^2 - (ac+3bd)\left(c^2+3d^2\right), 3(bc-ad)\left(a^2+3b^2\right),-\left(c^2+3d^2\right)^2 + (ac+3bd)\left(a^2+3b^2\right) \right )$$

Another interesting phenomena is sum-of-consecutive-cubes being a cube, and a couple of years back I proved that $(0, 4)$ are the only solutions to $(a-1)^3+a^3+(a+1)^3=b^3$ using hard elliptic curve analysis.

Also, it is conjectured that the only $n$-tuples with the property that the $k$-th power of first $n-1$ is equal to $k$-th power of the other for some integer $k$ are $(3, 4, 5)$ with $(3, 4, 5, 6)$ for $k=3$, that is, $3^3+4^3+5^3=6^3$ and no other. All cases for $k \leq 5$ is proved, although I don't have a reference for that. See Erdos-Moser topic I have created in this forum.
 
Last edited:
  • #7
Hello.

[tex]Let \ a, \ b, \ c, \ d, \ n, \ p \in{Z}/ a^3=b^3+c^3+d^3[/tex]

Succession family 2ª)

[tex]a=9n^4[/tex]

[tex]b=9n^4-3p^3n[/tex]

[tex]c=9pn^3-p^4[/tex]

[tex]d=p^4[/tex]

Being "n" number of the sequence, and "p" the number that you want.

Regards.
 
  • #8
I just got hold of my copy of Perelman today, and here's the one :

$$(x, y, z, u) = (a + k\alpha, b + k\beta, c + k\gamma, -d - k\delta)$$

$$k = - \frac{a^2\alpha + b^2\beta + c^2\gamma + d^2\delta}{a\alpha^2+b\beta^2+c\gamma^2+d\delta^2}$$

Where $(a, b, c, -d)$ and $(\alpha, \beta, \gamma, -\delta)$ both satisfy the diophantine equation and are used as an initializing 'seed' here.

This is quite superior, indeed, as it not just generates tuples over $\mathbb{Z}^4$, but also over $\mathbb{Q}^4$. Looking at it, I believe it is plausible to conjecture

This solution over $\mathbb{Z}^4$ is complete.

Although much more general $\mathbb{Q}^4$ seems likely to be false, although a proof is lacking. I think I should mail this one to Piezas, don't know whether he have already seen this before...
 
  • #9
Hello.

[tex]Let \ a, \ b, \ c, \ d, \ n, \ p \in{Z}/ a^3=b^3+c^3+d^3[/tex]

Succession family 3ª)

[tex]a=9n^3-6pn^2+3p^2n[/tex]

[tex]b=9n^3-6pn^2+3p^2n-p^3[/tex]

[tex]c=6pn^2-3p^2n+p^3[/tex]

[tex]d=3pn^2[/tex]

Being "n" number of the sequence, and "p" the number that you want.

Regards.
 
  • #10
mathbalarka said:
I just got hold of my copy of Perelman today, and here's the one :

$$(x, y, z, u) = (a + k\alpha, b + k\beta, c + k\gamma, -d - k\delta)$$

$$k = - \frac{a^2\alpha + b^2\beta + c^2\gamma + d^2\delta}{a\alpha^2+b\beta^2+c\gamma^2+d\delta^2}$$

Where $(a, b, c, -d)$ and $(\alpha, \beta, \gamma, -\delta)$ both satisfy the diophantine equation and are used as an initializing 'seed' here.

This is quite superior, indeed, as it not just generates tuples over $\mathbb{Z}^4$, but also over $\mathbb{Q}^4$. Looking at it, I believe it is plausible to conjecture

This solution over $\mathbb{Z}^4$ is complete.

Although much more general $\mathbb{Q}^4$ seems likely to be false, although a proof is lacking. I think I should mail this one to Piezas, don't know whether he have already seen this before...

Hello.

I have much difficulty to assimilate this formula to a case study.

For example:

[tex]Let (a,b,c,d), \ / \ a, \ b, \ c, \ d \in{Z}/ \ a^3=b^3+c^3+d^3[/tex]

Some results, of the following, arise with any of my formulas:

[tex](9, 8, 6, 1)[/tex], [tex](172, 138, 135,1)[/tex], [tex](1010, 812, 791, 1)[/tex], [tex](505, 426, 372, 1)[/tex]

[tex](577, 486, 426, 1)[/tex], [tex](144, 138, 71, 1)[/tex], [tex](1210, 1207, 236, 1)[/tex], [tex](729, 720, 242, 1)[/tex]

[tex](2304, 2292, 575, 1)[/tex], [tex](5625, 5610, 1124, 1)[/tex], [tex](11664, 11646, 1943, 1)[/tex], [tex](21609, 21588, 3086, 1)[/tex]

[tex](904, 823, 566, 1)[/tex], [tex](8703, 8675, 1851, 1)[/tex], [tex](6756, 6702, 1943, 1)[/tex], [tex](3097, 2820, 1938, 1)[/tex] ...

Regards.
 
  • #11
mente oscura said:
I have much difficulty to assimilate this formula to a case study.

I don't see why. Just pick up arbitrary seeds $a, \alpha, b, \beta, c, \gamma, d, \delta$ satisfying the intended equation and then do some calculation to arrive at another multiset. This is simply a binary operation acting over the multisets.

And if you come to analyze this one, you'll see how ingenious it is. And fortunately you came up with the issue, I completely forgot to mail it to Piezas! Let's see what he thinks.
 
  • #12
Hello.

[tex]Let \ a, \ b, \ c, \ d, \ n, \ p \in{Z}/ a^3=b^3+c^3+d^3[/tex]

Succession family 4ª)

[tex]a=9n^3+6pn^2+3p^2n+p^3[/tex]

[tex]b=9n^3+6pn^2+3p^2n[/tex]

[tex]c=6pn^2+3p^2n+p^3[/tex]

[tex]d=3pn^2[/tex]

Being "n" number of the sequence, and "p" the number that you want.

Regards.
 

FAQ: Succession 5 numbers risen up to "3"

What is the pattern of the succession of numbers when raised up to 3?

The pattern of succession when raised up to 3 is: n^3, (n+1)^3, (n+2)^3, (n+3)^3, (n+4)^3, ...

How do you find the first 5 numbers in the succession when raised up to 3?

The first 5 numbers in the succession when raised up to 3 are: 1^3, 2^3, 3^3, 4^3, 5^3 which gives us the sequence: 1, 8, 27, 64, 125.

What is the formula for finding the nth number in the succession when raised up to 3?

The formula for finding the nth number in the succession when raised up to 3 is: (n+1)^3.

How do you predict the next number in the succession when raised up to 3?

To predict the next number in the succession when raised up to 3, simply add 1 to the previous number and raise it to the power of 3. For example, the next number after 125 would be (5+1)^3 = 6^3 = 216.

How does this succession relate to the concept of exponential growth?

This succession relates to the concept of exponential growth because each number in the sequence is increasing at a faster rate than the previous number, resulting in a rapid growth pattern. This is evident by the fact that the numbers are being raised to a higher power (3) each time, causing the numbers to increase exponentially.

Similar threads

Back
Top