Summation of sines and cosines questions

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In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between two equations in a text that defines \sum E_{n} Cos \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right) and \sum E_{n} Sin \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right). The conversation concludes that it is fair to say \sum E_{n} Sin \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right) = E Sin \phi based on Euler's identity. However, there may be constraints to this relationship, as not all combinations of E and \phi will work.
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This is not a homework question per say, but rather a question I have about a text I am reading. In the text, they have defined

[tex]\sum E_{n} Cos \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right) = E Cos \phi[/tex]

If this is the case, is it fair to say that

[tex]\sum E_{n} Sin \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right) = E Sin \phi[/tex]

My text claims it is, though I can not figure out why. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Yes, it is fair to say, and the reason is Euler's identity,

[tex]e^{ix} = \cos(x) + i \sin (x)[/tex]

Try starting with

[tex]\sum E_n \exp\left(\frac{i2 \pi X_n}{\lambda}\right)[/tex]

and see what you come up with.
 
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Ahh. Let me see if I can make an argument out of this.

[tex] \sum E_n \exp \left( \frac{i2 \pi X_n}{\lambda} \right) = \sum E_{n} Cos \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right) + E_{n} i Sin \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right) [/tex]

But we can also say

[tex]\sum E_n \exp\left(\frac{i2 \pi X_n}{\lambda}\right) = Ee^{i \phi} = E cos \phi + i E sin \phi [/tex]

By setting the real parts equal to each other and the imaginary parts equal to each other, we see that the definitions are consistent.

Right?
 
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There have to be some contraints to this, as it doesn't hold in general. For example:

[tex]\cos(x)=\cos(-x)[/tex]

but not

[tex]\sin(x)=\sin(-x)[/tex]
 
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Maybe I read more into the question than was actually there.

It is true that there is a solution [itex]E, \phi[/itex] that satisfies the two equations, and with the convention that E > 0, the solution is unique. (E = 0 is a degenerate exception, in which case [itex]\phi[/itex] can be anything.)

Reading the question more literally, it does not make sense to define [itex]E, \phi[/itex] by just the one equation

[tex]\sum E_{n} Cos \left( \frac{2 \pi X_{n}}{\lambda} \right) = E Cos \phi[/tex]

as there are infinitely many combinations of [itex]E, \phi[/itex] that work.
 
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Thanks for all the help, folks. Jbunniii your first interpretation was of the question was the one I intended.
 

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