Supposed to use the root and ratio test

In summary, the conversation discusses the value of $S_{46}$, which is approximately equal to $3.32569$. The root test is mentioned in relation to this value and it is noted that it appears to converge. The conversation then shifts to discussing the limit of a related expression, which is equal to $\frac{2}{e}$. The request is made for a proof of this limit.
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$\tiny{206.b.46}$
\begin{align*}
\displaystyle
S_{46}&=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{2^k}{e^{k}-1 }\approx3.32569\\
% e^7 &=1+7+\frac{7^2}{2!}
%+\frac{7^3}{3!}+\frac{7^4}{4!}+\cdots \\
%e^7 &=1+7+\frac{49}{2}+\frac{343}{6}+\frac{2401}{24}+\cdots
\end{align*}
$\textsf{root test}$
$$\sqrt[k]{\frac{2^k}{e^{k}-1 } }
=2\left(\frac{1}{e^{k}-1 }\right)^{\frac{1}{k}}$$
$\textsf{this appears to converge }$
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$$2\lim_{k\to\infty}\left(\frac{1}{e^k-1}\right)^{1/k}=\frac2e$$

Can you prove it?
 
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greg1313 said:
$$2\lim_{k\to\infty}\left(\frac{1}{e^k-1}\right)^{1/k}=\frac2e$$

Can you prove it?
$\text{not offhand but..this could be rewritten as}$
$$\displaystyle
2\lim_{{k}\to{\infty}}\sqrt[k]{\frac{1}{e^k-1} }$$

$\text{sorry spent about an hour looking for examples on this but not}(Sadface)
 
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FAQ: Supposed to use the root and ratio test

What is the root test?

The root test is a method used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series. It involves taking the nth root of the absolute value of each term in the series and taking the limit as n approaches infinity. If the limit is less than 1, the series converges. If the limit is greater than 1, the series diverges. If the limit is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another method, such as the ratio test, must be used.

What is the ratio test?

The ratio test is another method used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series. It involves taking the limit as n approaches infinity of the absolute value of the ratio of each term in the series to the next term. If the limit is less than 1, the series converges. If the limit is greater than 1, the series diverges. If the limit is equal to 1, the test is inconclusive and another method, such as the root test, must be used.

When should I use the root test?

The root test should be used when the series contains terms with nth powers or nth roots. It is also useful when the series has alternating positive and negative terms.

When should I use the ratio test?

The ratio test should be used when the series contains terms with factorials or exponents. It is also useful when the series has alternating positive and negative terms.

What is the difference between the root test and the ratio test?

The main difference between the root test and the ratio test is the type of series each can be applied to. The root test can be used for nth powers and roots, while the ratio test is more suitable for factorials and exponents. Additionally, the root test uses the limit of nth roots, while the ratio test uses the limit of ratios between terms. Both tests have the same criteria for determining convergence or divergence, with a limit less than 1 indicating convergence, a limit greater than 1 indicating divergence, and a limit equal to 1 being inconclusive.

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