Surely fault about relativistic momentum

In summary, the conversation is discussing the conservation of relativistic momentum in a collision between two particles with opposite velocities. The speaker is having trouble understanding why the relativistic momentum is not being conserved in this scenario.
  • #1
BarbaraDav
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Dear Friends

Two identical particles are running, in opposite directions, along the x-axis of a reference frame having the origin coinciding with their barycentre; they hits frontally and glue together.

Their speeds are ("b" for before collision, "a" for after) :

V1b = u
V2b = -u
Va = 0

Let's watch the event from a reference frame moving toward right at speed u.

Relativistic speed composition gives:

V1b' = 0
V2b' = - 2u / ( 1 + u^2/c^2)
Va' = -u

This way the relativistic momentum is not conserved:

m ( 0 )+ m ( - 2u / ( 1 + u^2/c^2) ) != 2m ( -u )

Obviously, I'm wrong but really can't see what is going the bad way.
Please, can you give any hints ?

Best regards!

Barbara Da Vinci
Rome
 
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  • #2
Relativistic momentum is not equal to mv, it's equal to [tex]mv\gamma[/tex], i.e. [tex]\frac{mv}{\sqrt{1 - v^2/c^2}}[/tex]
 
  • #3
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Dear Barbara,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. It is understandable that you may be confused about the conservation of relativistic momentum in this scenario. However, there are a few key concepts to keep in mind that can help clear up any misunderstandings.

Firstly, it is important to note that the concept of relativistic momentum is based on the principle of relativity, which states that the laws of physics should be the same in all inertial reference frames. This means that the laws of physics, including the conservation of momentum, should hold true regardless of the observer's frame of reference. In your example, you have correctly applied the relativistic speed composition formula to calculate the velocities in the moving reference frame. However, you may have overlooked the fact that the masses of the particles also change in the moving frame due to the relativistic effects of time dilation and length contraction. This means that the momentum equation should also take into account the changes in mass, as shown below:

m0 ( 0 )+ m0 ( - 2u / ( 1 + u^2/c^2) ) = 2m ( -u )

Where m0 is the rest mass and m is the relativistic mass of the particles. This equation shows that the total relativistic momentum is conserved in the moving frame, as it should be according to the principle of relativity.

Furthermore, it is worth noting that the scenario you described is not a physically possible situation. Gluing two particles together after a collision would result in a larger, more massive particle with a different rest mass and therefore a different relativistic mass. This would affect the calculation of the relativistic momentum in the moving frame.

I hope this helps to clarify the concept of relativistic momentum and its conservation in different reference frames. Keep exploring and questioning, and you will continue to deepen your understanding of this fascinating topic.

Best regards,
 

FAQ: Surely fault about relativistic momentum

What is relativistic momentum?

Relativistic momentum is a concept in physics that takes into account the effects of special relativity on an object's momentum. It is calculated using the equation p = mv/√(1-v^2/c^2), where p is the relativistic momentum, m is the mass of the object, v is its velocity, and c is the speed of light.

How does relativistic momentum differ from classical momentum?

Classical momentum, as described by Newton's laws of motion, is calculated using the equation p = mv. However, this equation only holds true for objects moving at speeds much slower than the speed of light. Relativistic momentum takes into account the increase in mass and decrease in velocity at high speeds, as predicted by Einstein's theory of special relativity.

What are some real-world applications of relativistic momentum?

Relativistic momentum is important in fields such as astrophysics and particle physics, where objects or particles are moving at high speeds. It is also relevant in the development of technologies such as particle accelerators and space travel.

Why is relativistic momentum important in understanding the universe?

Relativistic momentum is crucial in understanding the fundamental laws of the universe, as it allows for accurate predictions and explanations of the behavior of objects and particles at high speeds. Without it, our understanding of the universe would be incomplete.

Are there any limitations to the concept of relativistic momentum?

Relativistic momentum is based on Einstein's theory of special relativity, which has been extensively tested and proven to be accurate. However, at extreme conditions such as near the speed of light, it may not fully account for other factors such as quantum effects. Further research and advancements in physics may lead to a more comprehensive understanding of momentum at these speeds.

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