Synchronous MOSFET Driver not functioning when voltage already present

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In summary, the module will work with a previous voltage of 1.5v or higher, but will not start up if there is a voltage on the SW pin. The module will be replaced with new PCBs.
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I have designed a circuit (module) based around this example. I have it working quite well for one exception.

I am trying to use this to charge and discharge a super capacitor bank. On Vout I have a 30 amp current monitoring IC that reads current in both directions so I can monitor and adjust the pwm input signal to maintain desired current flow. External to this module I have a PLC that monitors bank voltage and enables or disables the module based on bank voltage. My problem is that if the Capacitor bank has a previous voltage of about 1.5v or higher the NCP3420 continues to act disabled. I have tried playing around with the pwm and enable timings in code to no avail.

This module has a pic MCU that monitors current and voltage to control the pwm duty based on charge or discharge mode.

I have a feeling that inserting something to remove pin 7 from the circuit until it starts might be the key but I wanted to get some feed back before getting too creative. I think the gate driver prevents start up if voltage is present on the SW pin. Not sure. Datasheet is unclear to me.
 
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techn0 said:
I think the gate driver prevents start up if voltage is present on the SW pin. Not sure.
That IC is designed to supply a power output starting at zero volts.
Your first output when enabling the driver should be short pulses of output low. That must fully charge the flying capacitor between pins 1 and 7. Only then can output high be asserted.

I suspect you will need to hold pin 2, PWM low, while providing a series of short positive pulses to pin 3, _OD.
 
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I played around with what you suggested with no luck.

I then did some testing with bringing the module voltage up from zero while not connected to the cap bank. I would get the module voltage similar to the cap bank and then connect them successfully. So now I have modified the circuit to monitor cap bank voltage and allow the module to precharge to the cap bank voltage and then connecting with a relay with they are within a quarter volt of each other so normal charging or discharging is possible from any previous bank voltage now.

All the logic is programmed into the MCU controlling everything.

I was hoping to avoid any relays in this design but I will socket them so they can be serviced.

Ordering new PCBs again.
 

FAQ: Synchronous MOSFET Driver not functioning when voltage already present

Why is my synchronous MOSFET driver not functioning when there is already a voltage present?

This issue can occur due to improper sequencing of the power supply. Synchronous MOSFET drivers often require a specific sequence of voltage application to initialize correctly. If the voltage is already present, the driver might not go through its proper startup procedure, leading to malfunction.

Could a floating gate voltage cause my synchronous MOSFET driver to malfunction?

Yes, a floating gate voltage can cause the MOSFET driver to malfunction. If the gate voltage is not properly referenced or controlled, the MOSFET may not switch correctly, resulting in improper functioning of the driver.

Is there a problem with the bootstrap capacitor in my synchronous MOSFET driver circuit?

Yes, the bootstrap capacitor is crucial for the operation of the high-side MOSFET. If it is not correctly charged or if there is an issue with the capacitor itself, the high-side MOSFET may not turn on properly, causing the driver to malfunction.

Can the presence of voltage affect the initialization of the synchronous MOSFET driver?

Yes, the presence of voltage can affect the initialization process. Many synchronous MOSFET drivers have an internal logic that needs to be properly powered up and initialized. If the voltage is already present, this initialization sequence might be bypassed or improperly executed.

Could incorrect component values cause my synchronous MOSFET driver to fail when voltage is already present?

Yes, incorrect component values such as resistors, capacitors, or inductors can result in improper timing or voltage levels, leading to malfunction. Ensuring that all components are within the specified values is crucial for the correct operation of the MOSFET driver.

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