System of differential equations

In summary, the problem was solved by rewriting it in terms of vectors and using an appropriate ode solver.
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dRic2
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Hi, I was trying to solve the simplest problem of planetary motion (for one planet).

The equations should be:

##F_x = m \frac {d^2x} {dt^2} = G \frac {Mmx} {r^3}##
##F_y = m \frac {d^2y} {dt^2} = G \frac {Mmy} {r^3}##

where ## r = \sqrt{x^2 + y^2}##

So I re-wrote the system like this:

##\frac {dx} {dt} = v_x##
##\frac {dy} {dt} = v_y##
##\frac {dv_x} {dt} = G \frac {Mmx} {r^3}##
##\frac {dv_y} {dt} = G \frac {Mmy} {r^3}##

I'm not sure how to implement this in matlab...

I tried this

Code:
function out = sis(t, s)

% s(1) is x
% s(2) is y
% s(3) is v_x
% s(4) is v_yglobal G Ms Mt
out = zeros(4,1);out(1) = s(3);

out(2) = s(4);r = sqrt(s(1)^2 + s(2)^2);out(3) = G * Ms * Mt * s(1) / (r^3);

out(4) = G * Ms * Mt * s(2) / (r^3);end

but It gives wrong results.

Thanks
Ric
 
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Why do you set out(1) = s(3) and out(2) = s(4) shouldn't they be something like out(1) = s(1) + t*s(3) and out(2) = s(2) + t*s(4) ?

and is the v_z really v_y?
 
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jedishrfu said:
and is the v_z really v_y?
yes, my bad.

jedishrfu said:
Why do you set out(1) = s(3) and out(2) = s(4) shouldn't they be something like out(1) = s(1) + t*s(3) and out(2) = s(2) + t*s(4) ?

I want to use ode45 instead of manually implement the algorithm and I though that is the way to do it.
 
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You misunderstood what I was asking. My understanding is that the s array is the state of the system and since s1 and s2 represent the position then you must update the position each time with a delta x and a delta y value.

The delta x is in fact ##vx * \Delta t## which in your case is t giving the ##out1=s1+vx*t## expression.

Do you see what I mean?
 
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dRic2 said:
but It gives wrong results.
You'll have to elaborate.
 
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Thanks @jedishrfu, very nice link!

First of all, I forgot the minus sign in front of $\frac GMmx/r^3$. And then, as concerned as I was with mathematics, I totally forgot about the physics of the problem! My initial conditions were wrong and physically inconsistent so the numerical integration kept failing.
 
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Try ode113 instead of ode45, as it is a variable order solver that includes the results of several past time steps. It is better than ode45 for problems where high precision is required, such as orbital dynamics problems.

Example here:
https://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/ode113.html#bu6t62o-1_1

ode45 actually outputs more points than it computes - it uses interpolation to get a few extra points per time step, which results in nicer looking plots. That can be adjusted with the 'Refine' option.
 
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Thanks @Krell. I was just experimenting with Matlab to get used to it, but it is very useful to know!
 

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1. What is a system of differential equations?

A system of differential equations is a set of equations that represent the relationships between multiple variables and their rates of change over time. These equations are used to model dynamic systems in various fields of science and engineering.

2. What are the key components of a system of differential equations?

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