Temperature & Relativity: Can Plasma Fusion Test Limits?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of using experiments with plasma fusion to test relativity and its speed limit. However, it is mentioned that particle accelerators like the LHC are able to accelerate particles much closer to the speed of light than fusion plasma can. Additionally, the concept of relativistic mass is discouraged and it is noted that there is no upper limit to particle energy imposed by relativity.
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Do we know if experiments with plasma fusion could test relativity and its speed limit because of the maximal speed ? Like $$3/2kT=1/2mc^2$$ hence for example with hydrogen the maximal temperature should be around $$10^{12}K $$. I read that they achieved 8*10^7 in wendelstein. Or should it be considered the relativistic mass hence no upper limit for T even for little masses ?
 
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Particle accelerators like the LHC can accelerate particles much closer to the speed of light than fusion plasma can. The protons circling in the LHC have kinetic energy in the TeV range, which is much, MUCH higher than the KeV to MeV range of fusion plasma. Even if we could contain the plasma, at the TeV energy scale particles in the plasma would be colliding with each other so hard that they literally form new particles, robbing energy from the plasma and reducing its temperature.
 
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Also, ##mv^2/2## is not a valid expression for kinetic energy at relativistic speeds.
 
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The kinetic energy of a moving body is ##(\gamma-1) mc^2##. This grows without bound as velocity approaches c, so there is no upper bound to particle energy imposed by relativity.

We usually recommend against using relativistic mass for anything. You'll note that the formula I cited for kinetic energy is not simply the Newtonian formula with ##\gamma m## dropped in. Thinking that it might be is one of the problems with relativistic mass.
 
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FAQ: Temperature & Relativity: Can Plasma Fusion Test Limits?

1. What is temperature and how does it relate to relativity?

Temperature is a measure of the average kinetic energy of particles in a substance. Relativity is a theory that explains the relationship between space and time. In the context of plasma fusion, temperature and relativity are linked because the high temperatures required for fusion reactions can lead to relativistic effects, such as time dilation and length contraction.

2. How do scientists measure temperature in a plasma fusion experiment?

Temperature in a plasma fusion experiment can be measured using a variety of techniques, such as spectroscopy, thermocouples, and radiation detectors. These methods rely on the energy emitted by the plasma, which is directly related to its temperature, to determine the temperature of the plasma.

3. Can the temperature in a plasma fusion experiment reach the speed of light?

No, the speed of light is a fundamental constant and cannot be exceeded. While the temperature in a plasma fusion experiment can reach extremely high levels, it will never reach the speed of light. However, relativistic effects may still occur at these high temperatures.

4. How does temperature affect the success of plasma fusion experiments?

The temperature of the plasma is a critical factor in the success of a fusion reaction. At high temperatures, the particles in the plasma have enough energy to overcome their repulsive forces and fuse together, releasing energy. However, if the temperature is too low, the fusion reaction will not occur.

5. Are there any limits to the temperature that can be achieved in a plasma fusion experiment?

Yes, there are limits to the temperature that can be reached in a plasma fusion experiment. These limits are determined by the materials used to contain the plasma and the methods used to heat and confine it. The current record for temperature achieved in a fusion experiment is 100 million degrees Celsius, but scientists are continuously working to push this limit higher.

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