Tension Force Problem (applying Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem)

In summary, the "Tension Force Problem" involves analyzing a system where tension in a string or rope affects the motion of objects, specifically using the Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem. This theorem states that the work done on an object equals the change in its kinetic energy. In such problems, one calculates the work done by the tension force, considers other forces acting on the system, and applies the theorem to determine the resulting acceleration, velocity, or displacement of the objects involved. Key steps include identifying forces, calculating work, and applying energy principles.
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Homework Statement
Figure 7-41 shows a cord attached to a cart that can slide along a frictionless horizontal rail aligned along an x axis. The left end of the cord is pulled over a pulley, of negligible mass and friction and at cord height h = 1.20 m, so the cart slides from x_1 = 3.00 m to x_2 =1.00 m. During the move, the tension in the cord is a constant 25.0 N. What is the change in the kinetic energy of the cart during the move? (Source: Fundamentals of Physics, Halliday and Resnick)
Relevant Equations
##\Delta K = W##
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We know that net work done is equal to the change in kinetic energy, so we write: $$\Delta K = W$$ The tension is acting at angle ##\theta## due to the x axis, so we will only be taking its x component ##T_x = T \cos{\theta}##. Since we can look at this as one dimensional motion (##T_y## does no work, only ##T_x## does; only tension does work), we can write: $$W = \int_{x_1}^{x_2} T_x \, dx \implies W = \int_{x_1}^{x_2} T \cos{\theta} \, dx \implies W = T \int_{x_1}^{x_2} \cos{\theta} \, dx$$ How does one go about solving this integral? I've seen someone's solution and it says that the work done by tension is ##W = Td## where ##d = \sqrt{x_1^2 + h^2} - \sqrt{x_2^2 + h^2}##. So, I guess my integral should be equal to this, but I have no idea how to solve it.
 
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You can do it with the integral, but it's easier if you think about the tension ##T## on the left side of the pulley and how far its displaced as the mass goes from ##x_1## to ##x_2##.

Are you seeing that (it's how the solution you saw is derived), or are you explicitly interested in evaluating the integral?
 
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erobz said:
You can do it with the integral, but it's easier if you think about the tension ##T## on the left side of the pulley and how far its displaced as the mass goes from ##x_1## to ##x_2##.
Oh, hmm, I'm not sure if I can see it. Could you elaborate? Also, did I setup my limits of integration correctly?
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
Oh, hmm, I'm not sure if I can see it. Could you elaborate? Also, did I setup my limits of integration correctly?
To do the integral you must change variables. If you want to go over the math/calculus, we should do that after you see where the solution you saw comes from.

What is the tension in the rope on the left side of the pulley?

What is the angle between ##T## and its displacement over there?

Draw lines from ##x_1## to the top of the pulley, repeat for ##x_2##

How far has ##T##(on the left side) been displaced using this information (and an inextensible rope approximation)?
 
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erobz said:
To do the integral you must change variables. If you want to go over the math/calculus, we should do that after you see what the solution you saw comes from.

What is the tension in the rope on the left side of the pulley?

What is the angle between ##T## and its displacement over there?

Draw lines from ##x_1## to the top of the pulley, repeat for ##x_2##

How far has ##T##(on the left side) been displaced using this information (and an inextensible rope approximation)?
Oh, I see it now. So on the left side of the pulley, the tension is going to be the same, so ##T##. The angle between ##T## and its displacement is going to be 0°. Well, it will have travelled "the length of the rope at ##x_1##(from the top of the pulley to ##x_1##)" - "the length of the rope at ##x_2##(from the top of the pulley to ##x_2##)" which is exactly what ##d## is.
 
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Could we do the math now?
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
Could we do the math now?
You need to get ##\cos \theta ## as a function of ##x## or ##x## as a function of ##\theta## before you can integrate. Relate ##x, h, \theta##
 
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erobz said:
You need to get ##\cos \theta ## as a function of ##x## or ##x## as a function of ##\theta## before you can integrate.
I am aware of that, but I wasn't able to find an efficient equation.
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
I am aware of that, but I wasn't able to find an efficient equation.
Relate ##x, h## and ##\theta##( using trig). What do you get?
 
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erobz said:
Relate ##x, h## and ##\theta##(trig). What do you get?
Well, ##\tan{\theta} = \frac{h}{x}##
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
Well, ##\tan{\theta} = \frac{h}{x}##
So the ( a ) goal is to get ##\cos \theta## as a function of our current variable of integration ##x##. Decompose ##\tan \theta## into is constituent trig functions and just re-write that expression ( solve it for ##\cos \theta##)
 
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erobz said:
So the ( a ) goal is to get ##cos \theta## as a function of our current variable of integration ##x##. Decompose ##\tan \theta## into is constituent trig functions and just re-write that expression ( solve it for ##cos \theta##)
$$\frac{\sin{\theta}}{\cos{\theta}} = \frac{h}{x} \implies \cos{\theta} = \frac{x\sin{\theta}}{h}$$
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
$$\frac{\sin{\theta}}{\cos{\theta}} = \frac{h}{x} \implies \cos{\theta} = \frac{x\sin{\theta}}{h}$$
Now, can you see how to get rid of ##\sin \theta## in terms of the variable ##x##, and constant ##h## (think pythagoras) ?
 
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erobz said:
Now, can you see how to get rid of ##\sin \theta## in terms of the variable ##x##, and constant ##h## (think pythagoras) ?
Oh, I see it now. So, $$\cos{\theta} = \frac{x\sin{\theta}}{h}\cos{\theta} = \frac{x \frac{h}{d}}{h} \implies \cos{\theta} = \frac{x}{d} \implies \cos{\theta} = \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2 +h^2}}$$
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
Oh, I see it now. So, $$\cos{\theta} = \frac{x\sin{\theta}}{h}\cos{\theta} = \frac{x \frac{h}{d}}{h} \implies \cos{\theta} = \frac{x}{d} \implies \cos{\theta} = \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2 +h^2}}$$
Ok, sub it in to the integrand. Factor out the constants, and integrate.
 
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erobz said:
Ok, sub it in to the integrand. Factor out the constants, and integrate.
And after integration, we get ##\sqrt{x_1^2 + h^2} - \sqrt{x_2^2 + h^2}##. And now I see that I did mess up my limits of integration. Anyway, tysm for the help!
 
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Heisenberg7 said:
And after integration, we get ##\sqrt{x_1^2 + h^2} - \sqrt{x_2^2 + h^2}##. And now I see that I did mess up my limits of integration. Anyway, tysm for the help!
You're welcome!
 
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FAQ: Tension Force Problem (applying Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem)

What is the Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem?

The Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem states that the work done on an object is equal to the change in its kinetic energy. Mathematically, it can be expressed as W = ΔKE = KE_final - KE_initial, where W is the work done, KE_final is the final kinetic energy, and KE_initial is the initial kinetic energy.

How do I calculate tension force in a problem involving pulleys?

To calculate the tension force in a pulley system, you need to analyze the forces acting on the objects involved. Set up equations based on Newton's second law (F = ma) for each mass, considering the direction of the forces. The tension will typically be the same throughout the rope unless there are frictional forces or different masses affecting the system.

What role does tension play in the Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem?

Tension is a force that can do work on an object. When tension acts on an object and causes it to move, the work done by the tension contributes to the change in the object's kinetic energy. If the tension force is constant and acts over a distance, the work done can be calculated as W = T * d * cos(θ), where T is the tension, d is the distance moved, and θ is the angle between the tension force and the direction of motion.

How do I apply the Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem to a tension force problem?

To apply the Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem in a tension force problem, first identify the initial and final states of the system. Calculate the initial and final kinetic energies of the object(s) involved. Then, determine the work done by the tension force over the distance moved. Set the work equal to the change in kinetic energy to solve for unknowns such as tension, distance, or acceleration.

What are common mistakes when solving tension force problems using the Work-Kinetic Energy Theorem?

Common mistakes include neglecting to account for all forces acting on the system, miscalculating the direction of the tension force, and failing to correctly apply the work-energy principle by not considering the initial and final states of the kinetic energy. Additionally, assuming tension is the same in all parts of a system without justification can lead to incorrect results.

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