The early perception of light ?

In summary: When you invoke light as "photons", then all the QM description applies, and QM doesn't change gears to describe ALL phenomena associated with light. This is all accomplished by one consistent theory, known as quantum mechanics.
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chewan
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here's one for the physics buffs...

at the first stage of the perception of light, a photon(s) bleaches/is absorbed by rhodopsin in the retina, breaks apart and an intercellular cascade occurs. a photon is an individual particle, right? so when we perceive light, can we only perceive it as a particle and not as a wave, despite the fact that it exists as both?
 
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chewan said:
here's one for the physics buffs...

at the first stage of the perception of light, a photon(s) bleaches/is absorbed by rhodopsin in the retina, breaks apart and an intercellular cascade occurs. a photon is an individual particle, right? so when we perceive light, can we only perceive it as a particle and not as a wave, despite the fact that it exists as both?

Not in quantum mechanics it doesn't. When you invoke light as "photons", then all the QM description applies, and QM doesn't change gears to describe ALL phenomena associated with light.

You may want to read the FAQ first.

Zz.
 
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Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
You may also want to re-read our PF guildelines, especially the one on MULTIPLE POSTS!

Zz.

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but as per your reply, I'm a biochem major and what you said makes absolutely no sense to me. i'll read the FAQs though...
 
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awesome... third question in,
but I'm still somewhat confused...

Unlike classical physics, quantum mechanics does not need to switch gears to describe the wave-like and particle-like observations. This is all accomplished by one consistent theory.

keeping in mind, my extent of knowledge of quantum mechanics extends no further than the book "entanglement" by amir aczel, can someone make me look stupid...?
 
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chewan said:
awesome... third question in,
but I'm still somewhat confused...

Unlike classical physics, quantum mechanics does not need to switch gears to describe the wave-like and particle-like observations. This is all accomplished by one consistent theory.

keeping in mind, my extent of knowledge of quantum mechanics extends no further than the book "entanglement" by amir aczel, can someone make me look stupid...?

A friendly tip: your posting is confusing because there's nothing to indicate that ZapperZ wrote the second paragraph and that you're quoting him. Instead of using the "Quick Reply" box at the bottom of the thread, click the QUOTE button at the end of the particular posting that you want to reply to. This gives you a text-edit box with the previous message already pasted into it, and enclosed in QUOTE tags.

When you do this, please edit the quoted material so that you actually quote only the part that you are directly responding to! There's no need to quote the entire posting because it's right up there above yours for everybody to read anyway. :smile:

(I deliberately quoted all of your posting because I'm commenting on its entire structure.)

Note that you can insert your own QUOTE tags if you want to quote different parts of the other posting, with your comments in between.
Or if you want to quote from something else.
 
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Mk said:
Do you know about wave-particle duality? I'm sure it was outlined in the book; you should check back. Also, look at...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-particle_duality

ok, so what i got from that, and please correct me if I'm wrong. light travels as a wave until it serendipitously reaches it's ultimate destination (for reasons not well understood), at which point, it is now a photon particle? while the wave exists, we do not perceive them in our everyday lives because Plank's constant states that the wavelength of an object is inverse to it's size. when we look at our desk, or read a book, the waves of these objects are way to small to see, despite the fact that they are present while light is traveling towards our eyes...? on the right track?
 
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yes? no? anyone?
 

FAQ: The early perception of light ?

What is the earliest known perception of light?

The earliest known perception of light is the existence of photoreceptors in single-celled organisms such as bacteria and algae, which allow them to sense and respond to changes in light intensity.

How did ancient civilizations perceive light?

Ancient civilizations perceived light as a deity or a symbol of divinity, often associating it with the sun or fire. They also used various tools and methods (such as mirrors and lenses) to manipulate and harness light for practical purposes.

When did humans discover the scientific principles of light?

The scientific principles of light were first discovered by ancient Greek philosophers such as Pythagoras and Euclid, who proposed the idea of light as a ray. However, it was not until the 17th century when scientists like Isaac Newton and Robert Hooke conducted experiments and developed theories to explain the nature of light.

What is the dual nature of light?

The dual nature of light refers to the fact that light exhibits properties of both particles and waves. This was first proposed by scientists like Thomas Young and Max Planck, and later confirmed by experiments such as the double-slit experiment.

How has our understanding of light evolved over time?

Our understanding of light has evolved significantly over time, from perceiving it as a mystical force to a scientific phenomenon. With advancements in technology and research, we now have a more comprehensive understanding of the various properties and behaviors of light, leading to numerous practical applications in fields such as optics and telecommunications.

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