The Elusive Field Structure of $\mathbb{R}^n$ Beyond $n=2$

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This is all very handwavy and I have not studied it in detail. I suggest that you research more about Frobenius and the theory of fields to understand the proof better.
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\(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) is a vector space but not a field because it lacks a suitable multiplication operation between pairs of its elements ...

Why don't mathematicians define a multiplication operation between a pair of elements and investigate the resulting field ...

For example ... why not define multiplication as X where \(\displaystyle (x_1, x_2, \ ... \ ... \ , x_n) \ X \ (y_1, y_2, \ ... \ ... \ , y_n) = (x_1 y_1, x_2 y_2 , \ ... \ ... \ , x_n y_n)\) ...Peter
 
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Peter said:
\(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) is a vector space but not a field because it lacks a suitable multiplication operation between pairs of its elements ...

Why don't mathematicians define a multiplication operation between a pair of elements and investigate the resulting field ...

For example ... why not define multiplication as X where \(\displaystyle (x_1, x_2, \ ... \ ... \ , x_n) \ X \ (y_1, y_2, \ ... \ ... \ , y_n) = (x_1 y_1, x_2 y_2 , \ ... \ ... \ , x_n y_n)\) ...Peter
You can define a multiplication operation, but if it is to give rise to a field then it has to obey the field axioms.

For example, you need to check that there is a zero element and an identity element, and each nonzero element of the space needs to have a multiplicative inverse. In the case of the operation that you suggest, the zero element is $(0,0,\ldots,0)$ and the identity element is $(1,1,\ldots,1)$. The element $(1,0,\ldots,0)$ is nonzero but does not have an inverse. So your proposed multiplication does not make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) into a field.

In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) into a field. (The nearest you can get is the quaternion multiplication in \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^4\), which has many nice properties but is not commutative. So it does not make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^4\) into a field.)
 
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You can define a multiplication operation, but if it is to give rise to a field then it has to obey the field axioms.

For example, you need to check that there is a zero element and an identity element, and each nonzero element of the space needs to have a multiplicative inverse. In the case of the operation that you suggest, the zero element is $(0,0,\ldots,0)$ and the identity element is $(1,1,\ldots,1)$. The element $(1,0,\ldots,0)$ is nonzero but does not have an inverse. So your proposed multiplication does not make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) into a field.

In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) into a field. (The nearest you can get is the quaternion multiplication in \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^4\), which has many nice properties but is not commutative. So it does not make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^4\) into a field.)
Thanks for that reply, Opalg ... really informative ...

Now ... you write the following:

" ... ... In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) into a field. ... ... "

Intriguing ...

Now how would you go about formally and rigorously proving that ... can you indicate the broad nature of the proof ...

Thanks again ...

Peter
 
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Peter said:
Now ... you write the following:

" ... ... In fact, when $n>2$ there is no way to make \(\displaystyle \mathbb{R}^n\) into a field. ... ... "

Intriguing ...

Now how would you go about formally and rigorously proving that ... can you indicate the broad nature of the proof ...
This is not an area that I am really familiar with. I believe that the result goes back to Frobenius in the 19th century.

When $n=2$ it is of course possible to make the space $\Bbb{R}^2$ into a field, with the complex number multiplication that is given by identifying $\Bbb{R}^2$ with $\Bbb{C}$. But $\Bbb{C}$ is an algebraically closed field, which implies that it has no proper algebraic extensions. That somehow implies that it is the end of the road: it cannot be embedded in any larger field. In particular, that stops $\Bbb{R}^n$ from having a field structure when $n>2$.
 

Related to The Elusive Field Structure of $\mathbb{R}^n$ Beyond $n=2$

1. Could R^n be a field?

No, R^n (the set of n-tuples of real numbers) cannot be a field. In order for a set to be a field, it must satisfy certain properties such as closure, associativity, commutativity, and distributivity. However, R^n does not have closure under multiplication, as the product of two n-tuples is not necessarily an n-tuple.

2. What is a field?

A field is a mathematical structure that consists of a set of elements, along with two operations (usually addition and multiplication), that satisfy certain properties. These properties include closure, associativity, commutativity, and distributivity. Fields are important in many areas of mathematics, including algebra, number theory, and geometry.

3. Why is it important to determine if R^n is a field?

Determining if R^n is a field is important because it helps us understand the structure and properties of this set of n-tuples. It also allows us to generalize our understanding of fields to higher dimensions and apply it to other mathematical concepts and problems.

4. What are some examples of fields?

Some examples of fields include the real numbers (R), the rational numbers (Q), and the complex numbers (C). These are all infinite sets that satisfy the properties of a field and are used extensively in mathematics.

5. Are there any subsets of R^n that can be considered fields?

Yes, there are subsets of R^n that can be considered fields. For example, the set of n-tuples with all elements equal to 0, along with the usual operations of addition and multiplication, forms a field. This is known as the trivial field. Additionally, the set of n-tuples with all elements equal to 1, along with the usual operations, also forms a field, known as the prime field of R^n.

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