The existential theory is undecidable

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In summary, the conversation discusses the undecidability of the existential theory of $F[t, t^{-1}]$ in the language $\{+, \cdot , 0, 1, t\}$, and the reduction of this problem to Hilbert's Tenth Problem. The conversation includes definitions of Lemma 1 and 2, the formula $\psi(n)$, and the proof for the undecidability theorem.
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Hey! :eek:I am reading the theorem below and I have some questions... Lemma 1.

For any $x$ in the ring $F[t,t^{-1}]$ ($F[t,t^{-1}]$: the polynomials in $t$ and $t^{-1}$ with coefficients in the field $F$), $x$ is a power of $t$ if and only if $x$ divides $1$ and $t-1$ divides $x-1$ (the divisibilities are meant, of course, in $F[t, t^{-1}]$).

Lemma 2.

Assume that the characteristic of $F$ is zero. Then for any $n$ in the ring $F[t, t^{-1}]$ ($F[t,t^{-1}]$: the polynomials in $t$ and $t^{-1}$ with coefficients in the field $F$), $n$ is a nonzero integer if and only if $n$ divides $1$ and either $n-1$ divides $1$ or $n+1$ divides $1$, and there is a power $x$ of $t$, so that $(x-1)/(t-1)
\equiv n \pmod {t-1}$.

THEOREM.

Assume that the characteristic of $F$ is zero. Then the existential theory of $F[t, t^{-1}]$ in the language $\{+, \cdot , 0, 1, t\}$ is undecidable.

PROOF.

By Lemma 1, we can express the fact that an element $x$ in $F[t, t^{-1}]$ is a power of $t$ by an existential formula $\phi(x)$.

By this and Lemma 2, we can express the fact that an element $n$ of $F[t, t^{-1}]$ is an integer by the existential formula $$(\exists x)(\exists y) [\phi (x) \wedge x-1 = (t-1)n+y(t-1)^2] \wedge (\exists z)(\exists w) (nz =1 \wedge ((n+1)w=1 \text{ or } (n-1)w=1)$$
Call the last formula $\psi(n)$.

Assume for the sake of contradiction, that the existential theory of $F[t, t^{-1}]$ is decidable.

Then we can algorithmically examine the solvability of a diophantine equation in the rational integers in the following way:

if $P(X_1, \dots , X_n)=0$ is a given diophantine equation, we consider the existential formula $$(\exists x_1) \dots (\exists x_n) P(x_1, \dots , x_n)=0 \wedge \psi(x_1) \wedge \dots \psi(x_n)$$

Clearly, the equation of whether this sentence is true in $F[t, t^{-1}]$ is equivalent to the question of whether $P=0$ has integral solutions.
But this contradicts the negative answer to Hilbert's Tenth Problem; therefore, the theorem follows. Could you explain to me the formula $\psi(n)$ ?

Could you explain to me the reduction to Hilbert's Tenth Probelm? I haven't really understood it...
 
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The formula $\psi(n)$ is a way of expressing that an element $n$ of $F[t, t^{-1}]$ is an integer. It states that $n$ divides $1$, and either $n-1$ divides $1$ or $n+1$ divides $1$, and there is a power $x$ of $t$, so that $(x-1)/(t-1) \equiv n \pmod {t-1}$. The reduction to Hilbert's Tenth Problem works as follows: the existential theory of $F[t, t^{-1}]$ being decidable means that it is possible to algorithmically examine whether a given sentence containing existential quantifiers is true in $F[t, t^{-1}]$. To do this, we consider the existential formula $$(\exists x_1) \dots (\exists x_n) P(x_1, \dots , x_n)=0 \wedge \psi(x_1) \wedge \dots \psi(x_n)$$ where $P(X_1, \dots , X_n)=0$ is a given diophantine equation. This formula is equivalent to the question of whether $P=0$ has integral solutions, which is the same as asking whether the given diophantine equation has solutions in the rational integers. This contradicts the negative answer to Hilbert's Tenth Problem; therefore, the theorem follows.
 

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What is the existential theory?

The existential theory is a philosophical concept that explores the nature of existence and the meaning of life. It delves into questions about the purpose and significance of human existence and the universe as a whole.

What does it mean for the existential theory to be undecidable?

When we say that the existential theory is undecidable, it means that there is no definitive answer or solution to the questions it poses. It is a theory that cannot be proven or disproven, and it is up to each individual to interpret and make meaning of it.

Why is the existential theory considered to be undecidable?

The existential theory is considered undecidable because it deals with abstract concepts and subjective experiences that cannot be measured or proven in a concrete way. It is also constantly evolving and open to interpretation, making it difficult to arrive at a definitive conclusion.

How does the undecidability of the existential theory impact society?

The undecidability of the existential theory can lead to a diversity of beliefs and perspectives on life and existence. It can also create a sense of uncertainty and discomfort for some individuals who seek concrete answers and meaning in life. However, it can also inspire critical thinking and introspection, leading to personal growth and a deeper understanding of oneself and the world.

What are some potential implications of the existential theory being undecidable?

Some potential implications of the existential theory being undecidable include the acceptance of multiple perspectives and beliefs, the importance of individual interpretation and personal meaning-making, and the acknowledgement of the complexity and mystery of existence. It can also lead to a greater appreciation for the present moment and the pursuit of personal growth and fulfillment.

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