The failure to booststrap SU(3).

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of singling out specific gauge groups in string theory, such as SO(32) or E8xE8. It also explores the representation of SU(3) in string theory and how it relates to orientifolds. The conversation also mentions using a trick to get 3-quark baryons in the large N expansion and the potential of SU(3)xSO(large N) as a more interesting gauge group. The origin of SU(3) and its relationship to D=10 and extra dimensions is also touched upon.
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One of the encouraging points of string theory is the ability to single out specific gauge groups, a feat that Chew himself thougth impossible back in 1970. But it extracts groups as SO(32) or E8xE8... elegant it is, but not simple.

So let's ask, is there really no way single out SU(3) from some consistency argument. Here the definite property is that [tex] \bf 3 \times 3 = 6 + \bar 3[/tex]
and that the representations with size [itex]n (n\pm 1) /2[/itex] are seen to happen in string theory when orientifolds are involved. Here we could look to some 14 of Sp(6), or to SO(6), with a 15 what recovers back all the important game of SU(3), via
[tex]\bf 15 = >> 1_0 + 3_4 + \bar 3_{-4} + 8_0 [/tex]
while for higher Sp(2n) or SO(2n) groups using this same decomposition we still get the adjoint but not the defining and conjugate irreps of SU(n).
 
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By the way, a pretty nice trick to get 3-quark baryons in the large N expansion is to add a new set of quarks from the above (anti)symmetrisation. But lnot sure of its value... large N is a planar limit, isn't it? Or is it possible to get nonorientable planar large N? Even if so, something as SU(3)xSO(large N) could be more interesting than a swarm of new quarks.
 
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Hmm, SU(3) is of course visible as holonomy requirement, and also relatively from decomposition of SO(8) into 1 +3 + 3 +1. But all of this is consequence of D=10, while the former argument in the OP could be used in any dimension. Also, if we are into extra dimensional origins, we have more tools: complex manifolds, compactification enhancements, and even Kaluza Klein on symmetric spaces.
 

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The failure to booststrap SU(3) is a fundamental problem in particle physics and quantum field theory. It refers to the inability to find a consistent and self-contained mathematical framework for describing the strong nuclear force, also known as the SU(3) gauge theory.

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SU(3) is a mathematical group that describes symmetries in the laws of physics. It is particularly important in particle physics because it is used to describe the strong nuclear force, which binds particles together in the atomic nucleus. SU(3) is also a key component in the Standard Model of particle physics, which is the most successful theory we have for describing the fundamental particles and forces in the universe.

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