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I actually squirmed out of my seat in discomfort.DavidSnider said:"Starship Troopers" -- come on. You know you liked it.
But then, at the time, I did not realize it was a spoof.
I actually squirmed out of my seat in discomfort.DavidSnider said:"Starship Troopers" -- come on. You know you liked it.
... or that someone who doesn't know the interface, doesn't know the OS, doesn't even know how they communicated could, overnight, write a virus.DaveC426913 said:What's stupid is that the Earth system can interface with the alien system.
Now this was just a dumb, dumb, dumb movie. 1950s grade B movies had better premises -- and better plots and better dialog -- than this movie. The aliens (or whoever) had controlled nuclear fusion but had to use humans as an energy source? We are an energy sink. This movie was a vessel for contrived action. Everything else was an illusion.DaveC426913 said:Oh don't get me started on the premise of The Matrix...
G01 said:I personally find the reimagined Battlestar Galactica TV series to be some of my favorite science fiction. I think it's believable, and they don't try to over-explain anything with bad science.
I didn't mean a spoof on the book, I meant, the movie - standing on its own - wasn't a serious story; it was tongue-in-cheek.maverick_starstrider said:It wasn't a spoof Paul Verhoeven admitted he never actually read the book.
D H said:The aliens (or whoever) had controlled nuclear fusion but had to use humans as an energy source? We are an energy sink. This movie was a vessel for contrived action. Everything else was an illusion.
I don't demand reality in a sci-fi movie. What I do demand is something that let's me suspend my disbelief enough so that I can enjoy the show.
DaveC426913 said:Yup. Matrix lost me during the prologue. "With the skies blackened, the machines had no power..."
But it got me back. Premise aside, it really was a good movie.
There was nothing wrong with the scientific accuracy in Matrix. What was wrong with Matrix is the premise that made no sense.maverick_starstrider said:Unfortunately, if you're going to let scientific inaccuracy ruin a movie for you then there just really aren't ANY movies out there that are both good and accurate.
Yes. Like Highlander: there shood bhe ohnly one!maverick_starstrider said:(can't say the same for the sequels).
DaveC426913 said:Yes. Like Highlander: there shood bhe ohnly one!
G01 said:I personally find the reimagined Battlestar Galactica TV series to be some of my favorite science fiction. I think it's believable, and they don't try to over-explain anything with bad science.
Yup. Matrix lost me during the prologue. "With the skies blackened, the machines had no power..."
DaveC426913 said:What's stupid is that the Earth system can interface with the alien system.
maverick_starstrider said:Honestly I think the new BSG is the most realistic show on television. Of any genre. Despite being a physicist I'm not the type who obsesses or feels that a show/movie is ruined by scientific inaccuracies but the world of BSG is so realistic on a human level. You've got leaders who actually make some really bad mistakes. You've got the death of democracy in the face of adversity and politicians exploiting people's superstition to stay in power. Self-absorbed "revolutionaries", a military that's really bad at policing, a panicky reactionary public. Water shortages, labour strikes, cover-ups, military coups, a sensationalist press, etc. I think it's a fantastic show on both a production level (excellent cinematography) and an intellectual level (I mean in the first episode a massive attack eliminates most of the leadership and like the 30th person in line, the minister of education, assumes the presidency but the military resists and attempts to assume command. The second I saw that I knew I was watching what most TV shows should be).
maverick_starstrider said:Amen to that, the matrix was a fantastic movie (can't say the same for the sequels). Unfortunately, if you're going to let scientific inaccuracy ruin a movie for you then there just really aren't ANY movies out there that are both good and accurate. Movies like Sunshine and Solaris that try to be accurate, IMHO, are both really lame. Now I certainly think it is very possible to make a sci-fi movie that is both good AND accurate however, I can't really think of any examples where it's actually been done.
octelcogopod said:I just want to say about realism in scifi..
I don't think there's any difference in types of realism.
I think that walking in space without a suit is the same type of realism as loading your consciousness into a matrix or AI.
I think it all comes down to how much the audience knows about the science behind it, and how much they are willing to drop their beliefs.
A human in space without a suit will die, this is something most people KNOW as a FACT.
Loading your consciousness into a matrix is just as unrealistic, because we have no technology whatsoever to do this or any kind of sign that we will.
We simply believe it might be true because it's not taken as a solid fact yet.
DaveC426913 said:Yup. Matrix lost me during the prologue. "With the skies blackened, the machines had no power..."
But it got me back. Premise aside, it really was a good movie.
octelcogopod said:I just want to say about realism in scifi..
I don't think there's any difference in types of realism.
I think that walking in space without a suit is the same type of realism as loading your consciousness into a matrix or AI.
I think it all comes down to how much the audience knows about the science behind it, and how much they are willing to drop their beliefs.
A human in space without a suit will die, this is something most people KNOW as a FACT.
Loading your consciousness into a matrix is just as unrealistic, because we have no technology whatsoever to do this or any kind of sign that we will.
We simply believe it might be true because it's not taken as a solid fact yet.
Ivan Seeking said:I didn't like The Matrix. It was just two hours of special effects. Bleh!
I liked it better the first time when Descartes did it.
Truman's World - run by The Borg.Topher925 said:There were a lot of movies like Dark City that have tried to do this before