The necessity of a reflexive relation

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In summary, the speakers discussed the importance of explicitly stating the reflexive property when considering equivalence relations. This is because not all relations are reflexive, and it is necessary to specify when it is true in order to avoid assumptions. This was developed in order to abstract away from well-behaved relationships and address the fact that the most interesting relations (such as equivalence relations and partial orderings) have the property that any element is related to itself. However, this is not always the case, as shown by the example of the relation "<" on the real numbers.
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Gentlemen: I was wondering about equivalence, reflexive, transitive and symmetric relations, and I realized the importance of the transitive and symmetric ones, but it was not so intuitive for me to make explicit the reflexive relation... can someone explain why it is necessary to make explicit this relation when considering equivalence?
Sorry for my poor english and thanks in advance.
 
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There are a number of reasons; the most obvious is that reflexivity is not always true, and so you have to specify when it is.

Relations in general were developed in order to rigorously abstract away from certain common, well behaved relationship (e.g. equality, less than or equal to, etc.). When you do that, you immediately run into the fact that the kinds of relations that are most interesting (equivalence relations and partial orderings, say) have the property that any element is related to itself. This is not true in general; for instance, take the "less than" relation defined on the reals; it is not true that x < x (for any x). When it's true (as in the case of an equivalence relation), you specify that it's true. When it's not, you don't.
 
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Ok, mister number nine, I understood. Thank you.
 
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There is a need to state the reflexive property explicity since not all useful relations are reflexive - for example, the relation "<". We wouldn't want people assuming that 3 < 3.
 
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Ok, mr. Stephen, thank you!
 

FAQ: The necessity of a reflexive relation

1. What is a reflexive relation?

A reflexive relation is a relationship between two elements where each element is related to itself. In other words, if element A is related to element B, then element A must also be related to itself. This is also known as the "self-relationship" property.

2. Why is a reflexive relation necessary?

A reflexive relation is necessary because it helps establish a sense of self-identity and self-awareness within a system. It allows for the recognition and understanding of one's own existence and the relationship to other elements within the system.

3. What are some real-world examples of reflexive relations?

One common example of a reflexive relation is the "is equal to" relationship. For instance, the number 5 is equal to itself - 5 = 5. Another example is the "is a part of" relationship, where an object is considered a part of itself.

4. How does a reflexive relation differ from other types of relations?

A reflexive relation differs from other types of relations, such as symmetric or transitive relations, because it only involves one element. In symmetric relations, two elements are related to each other, while in transitive relations, three or more elements are related in a specific order.

5. What is the significance of studying reflexive relations in science?

Studying reflexive relations in science can help us better understand the fundamental properties of systems and how they interact with each other. It can also aid in the development of mathematical and logical models that can accurately represent real-world phenomena. Additionally, reflexive relations play a crucial role in fields such as computer science and artificial intelligence, where self-awareness and self-reference are important concepts to consider.

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