There are numbers c, d, with f(a) < f(x) < f(b) for x in (c,d)

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In summary, we can prove that for a continuous function ##f## on the closed interval ##[a,b]## with ##f(a) < f(b)##, there exist numbers ##c, d## with ##a \le c < d \le b## such that ##f(c) = f(a)## and ##f(d) = f(b)##, and for all ##x \in (c,d)##, ##f(a) < f(x) < f(b)##. This can be shown by considering the sets ##A = \left\{ x : a \le x < b \land f(x) = f(a) \right\} ## and ##B = \left\
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If ##f## is continuous on ##[a,b]## and ##f(a) < f(b)##. Prove that there are numbers ##c, d## with ##a \le c < d \le b## such that ##f(c) = f(a)## and ##f(d) = f(b)## and if ##x \in (c,d)## then ##f(a) < f(x) < f(b)##.


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By considering the set
##A = \left\{ x : a \le x < b \land f(x) = f(a) \right\} ##, which is non-empty and bounded above, so it has a least upper bound ##\alpha##, then I showed that ##f(\alpha) = f(a)##. And by considering the set ##B = \left\{ x : \alpha < x \le b \land f(x) = f(b) \right\} ##, which is nonempty and bounded below, so it has a greatest lower bound ##\beta##. I showed ##f(\beta) = f(b)##. And finally showed if ##x \in (\alpha, \beta)## then ##f(a) < f(x) < f(b)##. So letting ##c = \alpha## and ##d = \beta##.
 
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R_beta.v3 said:

Homework Statement


If ##f## is continuous on ##[a,b]## and ##f(a) < f(b)##. Prove that there are numbers ##c, d## with ##a \le c < d \le b## such that ##f(c) = f(a)## and ##f(d) = f(b)## and if ##x \in (c,d)## then ##f(a) < f(x) < f(b)##.


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The Attempt at a Solution



This is what I tried.
By considering the set
##A = \left\{ x : a \le x < b \land f(x) = f(a) \right\} ##, which is non-empty and bounded above, so it has a least upper bound ##\alpha##, then I showed that ##f(\alpha) = f(a)##. And by considering the set ##B = \left\{ x : \alpha < x \le b \land f(x) = f(b) \right\} ##, which is nonempty and bounded below, so it has a greatest lower bound ##\beta##. I showed ##f(\beta) = f(b)##. And finally showed if ##x \in (\alpha, \beta)## then ##f(a) < f(x) < f(b)##. So letting ##c = \alpha## and ##d = \beta##.

But might it not be that ##\beta < \alpha##?
 
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LCKurtz said:
But might it not be that ##\beta < \alpha##?

Well ##B## is bounded below by ##\alpha##, so ##\alpha## is a lower bound of B, and since ##\beta## is the greatest lower bound of ##B##, ##\alpha \le \beta##
 
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R_beta.v3 said:
Well ##B## is bounded below by ##\alpha##, so ##\alpha## is a lower bound of B, and since ##\beta## is the greatest lower bound of ##B##, ##\alpha \le \beta##

Yes. Sorry, I looked at your definitions of A and B and didn't notice you had ##\alpha## instead of ##a## for the lower limit in B. So I think your argument looks good.
 

FAQ: There are numbers c, d, with f(a) < f(x) < f(b) for x in (c,d)

What does the statement "f(a) < f(x) < f(b)" mean?

The statement "f(a) < f(x) < f(b)" means that the value of f(x) falls between the values of f(a) and f(b). In other words, f(x) is greater than f(a) and less than f(b).

What do the letters c and d represent in the statement?

The letters c and d represent two numbers that define a range or interval. They are used to indicate that the statement applies to all values of x between c and d, not just a specific value.

How is this statement relevant to scientific research?

This statement is relevant to scientific research because it is often used to describe a function's behavior over a specific range of values. This can be useful in analyzing data and making predictions about how a system or phenomenon will behave.

Can there be more than one set of numbers c and d that satisfy this statement?

Yes, there can be more than one set of numbers c and d that satisfy this statement. As long as f(a) is less than f(x) and f(b) is greater than f(x) for all values of x between c and d, the statement holds true.

Is this statement always true for any function f(x)?

No, this statement is not always true for any function f(x). It depends on the specific behavior of the function and the values of c and d. Some functions may not have a range where f(a) is less than f(x) and f(b) is greater than f(x).

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