Thermo: Show that the internal energy at constant entropy and volume decrease

In summary, to show that the internal energy at constant entropy and volume decreases for a spontaneous process, we use the Clausius inequality and assume a constant volume and entropy. If the temperature at the heat transfer interface is held constant, then we can show that the internal energy decreases (ΔU<0). However, if the temperature is varying during the process, this method cannot be used.
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Homework Statement


Show that the internal energy at constant entropy and volume decrease for a spontaneous process

Homework Equations


F = U-TS

The Attempt at a Solution


Use Clausius: dS-dQ/dT > 0
Assume constant volume: TdS > dU
assume constant entropy
this becomes
0>dU

Since dU is negative, Change in F is negative thus spontaneous?
 
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You kind of had the right idea. For a constant volume process that transitions a closed system from thermodynamic equilibrium state A to thermodynamic equilibrium state B, you indicated that:
$$ΔU=Q$$
Also, from the Clausius inequality, for a spontaneous process,

$$ΔS>\frac{Q}{T_B}$$
where TB is the temperature at the heat transfer interface between the system and the surroundings, and where we have assumed that TB is held constant during the spontaneous process. Since ΔS is zero in the transition from state A to state B, we have:

$$0>\frac{Q}{T_B}$$

Therefore, Q<0, and ΔU<0.

I don't know how to do this if TB is varying during the process.
 

FAQ: Thermo: Show that the internal energy at constant entropy and volume decrease

What is internal energy in thermodynamics?

Internal energy is the sum of all the microscopic potential and kinetic energies of the particles in a system. It is a state function that depends on the temperature, volume, and number of particles in the system.

How is internal energy related to entropy and volume?

At constant entropy and volume, the internal energy of a system decreases because the system is not doing work and there is no heat transfer. This means that the energy remains constant, but is redistributed among the particles in the system, resulting in a decrease in internal energy.

What is the significance of constant entropy and volume in thermodynamics?

Constant entropy and volume are important conditions in thermodynamics because they allow us to study the internal energy of a system without the influence of external factors like heat and work. This allows us to better understand the fundamental behavior and properties of the system.

Can the internal energy at constant entropy and volume ever increase?

No, the internal energy at constant entropy and volume can only decrease. This is because the first law of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or transformed. Therefore, if the system is not doing work or receiving heat, the internal energy cannot increase.

How can the decrease in internal energy at constant entropy and volume be explained?

The decrease in internal energy at constant entropy and volume can be explained by the second law of thermodynamics. This law states that in a closed system, the entropy can never decrease, meaning the energy of the system will always be redistributed to increase the overall entropy. Therefore, at constant entropy, the energy must decrease.

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