They despise you because they despise your Christ

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In summary, Bob Jones, III, the president of Bob Jones University, wrote a letter to the President congratulating him on his re-election and urging him to put his biblical values at the forefront of his agenda. A liberal responds, expressing their approval of Jesus but disapproval of the neoconservative agenda and their attempts to impose their religion on others. The conversation continues to discuss the idea of a Third Great Awakening and what Jesus would do in today's society.
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From Bob Jones - Dr. Bob Jones, III, the president of Bob Jones University - a man close to your President's heart.

"Dear Mr. President, in your re-election, God has graciously granted America--though she doesn't deserve it--a reprieve from the agenda of paganism. You have been given a mandate. ... Don't equivocate. Put your agenda on the front burner and let it boil. You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ. ... If you have weaklings around you who do not share your biblical values, shed yourself of them."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6485241/
 
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This Liberal has no problem with Jesus. Jesus seemed like a great guy, preaching about forgiveness and acceptance, sacrificing to help those less fortunate than him. I don't know how Jesusy excluding everyone who doesn't share your exact interpretation of the bible is though, but then again, I'm not Jesus.
 
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I just don't approve of the neoconservatives shoving their religion down everyone's throats. But then again, I am more of a secularist, favoring separation of religion from the governmental establishment so that no one religion is favored.
 
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I wonder if the president is going to respond to this. He has repeatedly said that atheists are Americans too, and that he is their president as much as the Christians' president.
 
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motai said:
I just don't approve of the neoconservatives shoving their religion down everyone's throats. But then again, I am more of a secularist, favoring separation of religion from the governmental establishment so that no one religion is favored.
You know, if you listen to Sean Hannity's and Rush Limbaugh's radio shows, the word "secularist" is actually used as an insult.
 
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wasteofo2 said:
You know, if you listen to Sean Hannity's and Rush Limbaugh's radio shows, the word "secularist" is actually used as an insult.

Given the recent political attack ads, I wouldn't be suprised.

All of this is getting me thinking... can this be the start of a Third Great Awakening? The First and Second Great Awakenings added quite a bit of religious fervor into American society, I am wondering if this might be another resurgence, especially with the Christian Coalition dominating the political scene.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
I wonder if the president is going to respond to this. He has repeatedly said that atheists are Americans too, and that he is their president as much as the Christians' president.

I think we all know how little his words mean. He also said he would reach out to all people. Boy, I really see him reaching! :smile: Like Carville said in that interview, that reach will be to slap us upside the head.
 
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Oh yes, it is not just about being a Christian, it is about being the right kind of Christian. It has been described by one Christian leader [The CNN documentary posted earlier] as religious McCarthyism.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
He also said he would reach out to all people.

He did ?

I only recall him saying that (and I quote from his News conference on Nov 4) "I'll reach out to everyone who shares our goals".
 
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I'm generally an agnostic, but I'm of the impression that if Jesus were alive today, he'd grow his hair long, smoke some dope, pick up a sign and march in front of the White House. Maybe go down to the market after and knock over a few tables.

(This is definitely not intended to offend anyone, so if I have offended, I apologize now before I get lynched.)
 
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Would Jesus have the newest, sleekest 4 wheel drive SUV with independant steering, sun roof, drop down plasma TV screen, CD and DVD player, onstar navigation system with and SuperSized cup holders for those familly outings that gets 20 miles to the gallon?

http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/church/images/bigguy.jpg
 
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WWJD? I think he'd fly around with RFK Jr. in that bizjet and preach environmentalism and energy conservation.
 
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Smurf said:
Would Jesus have the newest, sleekest 4 wheel drive SUV with independant steering, sun roof, drop down plasma TV screen, CD and DVD player, onstar navigation system with and SuperSized cup holders for those familly outings that gets 20 miles to the gallon?

http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/church/images/bigguy.jpg

YOU'RE GETING 20MPG IN THAT SUCKER?


Jesus would be all over that.
 
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Which is why I'm hiding it in the used car lot down the street.
 
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Smurf said:
Which is why I'm hiding it in the used car lot down the street.


Now to take my trusty lock pick and ignition starter. :wink:
 

FAQ: They despise you because they despise your Christ

What does "They despise you because they despise your Christ" mean?

This phrase refers to the idea that some people may dislike or hate someone because of their religious beliefs or affiliation. In this case, the person is being disliked because of their association with Christianity and its teachings.

Why do some people despise others because of their religious beliefs?

There can be various reasons for this. Some people may have had negative experiences with certain religious groups or individuals, leading them to develop negative feelings towards all members of that religion. Others may hold deep-seated prejudices and biases against certain religions. Additionally, some individuals may feel threatened by different belief systems that challenge their own beliefs, leading them to despise those who hold different views.

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Education and open-mindedness are key in addressing this issue. By learning about different religions and understanding their beliefs and practices, individuals can gain a better understanding and appreciation for others. It is also important to promote tolerance and respect for diversity, as well as actively combatting discrimination and prejudice.

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It can be difficult to deal with hatred and prejudice, but it is important to respond with love and understanding. Engaging in open and respectful dialogue with those who hold different beliefs can help bridge the divide and foster mutual understanding. It is also important to surround oneself with a supportive community and seek help if experiencing discrimination or hate.

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