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Hello,
I am trying to derive the TISE, but I am having many questions, and the textbook (Griffiths) does not give any adequate explanation and I have minimal access to my professor. My goal is to find ##\Psi (x,t)##. The book says the solution is
$$ \Psi (x,t) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} c_{n} \psi_{n}(x) exp(\frac {-iE_{n}t}{\hbar}) $$
So I start with the general SE (I am just taking this as a fact since the first page of Griffiths puts this equation and says its right)
$$ i \hbar \frac {\partial \Psi}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {\partial^{2} \Psi}{\partial x^{2}} + V \Psi $$
I can separate ##\Psi (x,t) = \psi (x) f(t)## and substitute
$$ i \hbar \frac {\partial [\psi (x) f(t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x) f(t)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V [\psi (x) f(t)]$$
Then divide by ##\psi (x) f(t)## in order to have the potential, ##V##, stand alone
$$ i \hbar \frac {1}{f} \frac {\partial [f(t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {1}{\psi (x)} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V $$
Now comes the first question. Griffiths says (without explanation)
$$ i \hbar \frac {1}{f(t)} \frac {\partial [f(t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {1}{\psi (x)} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V = E $$
Now, what exactly is ##E##? Is this "equality" actually just a definition, such that ##E## is just defined this way? Also, does ##E## stand for "energy"?
Anyways, they go on to find ##f(t)##, which with trivial integration is exponential, and ##f(t) = exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)##
So now I'm at this point, and I am not seeing how I will find ## \Psi (x,t) ##. I do know ## \Psi (x,t) = \psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)## My guess is to try and substitute back into the SE
$$ i \hbar \frac {\partial [\psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V [\psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)] $$
Okay, well where the heck do I get this linear combination? This just got ugly, and the book doesn't show the steps.
I am trying to derive the TISE, but I am having many questions, and the textbook (Griffiths) does not give any adequate explanation and I have minimal access to my professor. My goal is to find ##\Psi (x,t)##. The book says the solution is
$$ \Psi (x,t) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} c_{n} \psi_{n}(x) exp(\frac {-iE_{n}t}{\hbar}) $$
So I start with the general SE (I am just taking this as a fact since the first page of Griffiths puts this equation and says its right)
$$ i \hbar \frac {\partial \Psi}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {\partial^{2} \Psi}{\partial x^{2}} + V \Psi $$
I can separate ##\Psi (x,t) = \psi (x) f(t)## and substitute
$$ i \hbar \frac {\partial [\psi (x) f(t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x) f(t)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V [\psi (x) f(t)]$$
Then divide by ##\psi (x) f(t)## in order to have the potential, ##V##, stand alone
$$ i \hbar \frac {1}{f} \frac {\partial [f(t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {1}{\psi (x)} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V $$
Now comes the first question. Griffiths says (without explanation)
$$ i \hbar \frac {1}{f(t)} \frac {\partial [f(t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {1}{\psi (x)} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V = E $$
Now, what exactly is ##E##? Is this "equality" actually just a definition, such that ##E## is just defined this way? Also, does ##E## stand for "energy"?
Anyways, they go on to find ##f(t)##, which with trivial integration is exponential, and ##f(t) = exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)##
So now I'm at this point, and I am not seeing how I will find ## \Psi (x,t) ##. I do know ## \Psi (x,t) = \psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)## My guess is to try and substitute back into the SE
$$ i \hbar \frac {\partial [\psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)]}{\partial t} = - \frac {\hbar^{2}}{2m} \frac {\partial^{2} [\psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)]}{\partial x^{2}} + V [\psi (x) exp( \frac {-iE}{\hbar} t)] $$
Okay, well where the heck do I get this linear combination? This just got ugly, and the book doesn't show the steps.
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