Time Response of Overdamped System

In summary, the conversation discusses the development of a transfer function for an overdamped system with a low settling time, which can be applied to creating faster robots. The process involves initializing the transfer function, finding the values of the quadratic equation, determining the criteria for avoiding complex poles, and finding the damping ratio and natural frequency. The end result is a second order transfer function with a settling time of 1 second, where A = B and b^2 > 4ac.
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Dear PF Mentor, this is NOT homework assignment! This my own personal research intended to use a theoretical approach to develop a transfer function for an overdamped system with a low settling time. This could be used for creating faster robots.

Step 1: Initializing the transfer function
G(s) = 1 / ((s+A) (s+B))
G(s) = 1 / (s^2 + (A+B)s + AB)
if A = B
G(s) = 1 / (s^2 + 2As + A^2)
G (s) = (1/(A^2)) / (s^2 + (2A/A^2)s + 1 )

Step 2:
G = 1 / ( (1 / (natural frequency)^2)s^2 + (2* (damping ratio) / (natural frequency))s + 1

Step 3: Finding the values of the quadratic equation
a = 1
b = 2 * (damping ratio)
c = (natural frequency)^2

Step 4:

The equation for the settling time of a second order system is Ts = 4 / (damping ratio * settling time). May I remind you that in this case, the system is not critically damped, because the damping ratio exceeds 1. I'm choosing Ts = 1.

Ts = 1 = 4/(damping ratio * natural frequency) => damping ratio = 4/ natural frequency

Step 5:
Criteria: b^2 > 4ac = (2*damping ratio)^2 > 4*(natural frequency)^2
i.e. (2*damping ratio)^2 = 2*(4*(natural frequency)^2)
This way, I avoid having complex poles in my system.

Step 6: Finding the damping ratio and the natural frequency
I replace the damping ratio with (4 / natural frequency) to find the actual value of the natural frequency. This is called substitution in mathematics:

(2*(4 / natural frequency))^2 > 4*(natural frequency)^2
natural frequency = 8^(1/4), in other words; the fourth root of 8.

Thus the damping ratio = 4 / natural frequency = 4 / 8^(1/4)
Makes sense? :wink:

Step 7:
Now I can insert the values for the damping ratio and natural frequency into step 3 to find b and c.

G(s) = 1 / (s + 8^(1/4)) + (s + 8^(1/4))

Thus, I've found the second order transfer function of an overdamped system with a settling time of 1 second, where A = B and b^2 > 4ac.

Do you agree?
 
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Not bad. You used some approximate assumptions, but it should work fairly well.
 

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