Time-varying expectation values

In summary, the conversation discusses a question about the time-dependency of the expectation value of an operator in a state with multiple stationary states. It is explained that in this case, the complex exponents do not cancel out, resulting in a non-constant expectation value. This is due to the different energies of the states. The concept is further clarified by comparing it to waves with different frequencies.
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Niles
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Hi all.

I have a question which arose from the answer of a homework problem. A particle is in the state given by

[tex]
\left| \psi \right\rangle = \frac{1}{{\sqrt 3 }}\left[ {\left| \psi \right\rangle _1 + \left| \psi \right\rangle _2 + \left| \psi \right\rangle _3 } \right],
[/tex]

where [itex]{\left| \psi \right\rangle }_i[/itex] is a stationary state of the Hamiltonian. Finding the expectation value of an operator Q in this state, it turns out that <Q> is time-dependent (in fact it oscillates). I was wondering how it is possible to have a time-dependent expectation value? If there was a time-dependent perturbation, then I would be convinced, since the state [itex]{\left| \psi \right\rangle }[/itex] would change over time, but in this case [itex]{\left| \psi \right\rangle }[/itex] doesn't change.
 
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  • #2
the three states has different energies (eigenvalue of the hamiltonian) and thus they evolve in a different way.
 
  • #3
When you have just a single state, calculating the expectation value of any operator requires you to multiply the wavefunction by it's complex conjugate. For that reason, the time dependency (the complex exponent) cancels out.
[tex]e^{ix} (e^{ix})^* = e^{ix}e^{-ix} = 1[/tex]

If however you have multiple states like now, the complex exponents do not cancel out. Actually, a few terms cancel out like usual, but you are left with cross terms that do not, since the states have different energies.
[tex]e^{ix_1} (e^{ix_2})^* = e^{ix_1}e^{-ix_2} \neq 1[/tex] (in general)
 
  • #4
But what does this mean physically? I'm having a hard time interpreting how this can physically be possible without any external (time-varying) perturbation.
 
  • #5
think of every eigenstate as a wave with different frequency, in this way the modulo has different value at different times.
 

Related to Time-varying expectation values

1. What are time-varying expectation values?

Time-varying expectation values are the average values of a physical quantity that changes over time. They are used in quantum mechanics to describe the behavior of particles and their properties over time.

2. How are time-varying expectation values calculated?

Time-varying expectation values are calculated using the mathematical framework of quantum mechanics, specifically the Schrödinger equation. This equation describes the evolution of a particle's wavefunction, which is used to determine the probability of finding the particle in a certain state at a specific time.

3. What is the significance of time-varying expectation values?

Time-varying expectation values are important because they allow us to make predictions about the behavior of particles and systems over time. By calculating these values, we can gain insight into the quantum behavior of particles and understand how they change and interact with each other.

4. Can time-varying expectation values be measured in experiments?

Yes, time-varying expectation values can be measured in experiments using various techniques such as quantum state tomography or quantum state reconstruction. These methods involve making repeated measurements of a particle or system and then using statistical analysis to determine the expectation values of its properties at different points in time.

5. How do time-varying expectation values differ from classical expectation values?

Time-varying expectation values are different from classical expectation values in that they describe the probabilistic nature of quantum systems. In classical mechanics, expectation values are simply the average values of physical quantities, whereas in quantum mechanics, they represent the most probable outcomes of measurements of a particle's properties at a specific time.

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