Topic: Is there a solution to this infinite integration problem?

In summary: It might help to use the fact that ##\cos(w)## is the real part of ##e^{iw}##, so you need to integrate\int_0^1 \int_0^1 \cdots \int_0^1 e^{i c (x_1 + x_2 + \cdots + x_n)} \, dx_1 \, dx_2 \cdots \, dx_n,where ##c = \pi/n##. The exponential factors into separate factors for each variable, and so the n-fold integration is just the product of single-variable integrals. You can pull the "real part" operator outside all the integ
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Sleestak
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Homework Statement


Evaluate the limit
1 1 1
lim ∫ ∫ ... ∫ cos^2((pi/2n)(x1 + x2 +... xn))dx1 dx2 ... dxn
0 0 0
n→∞

Homework Equations


Well, I know that we can change this using a double angle rule, so that the integrals become 1/2 + 1/2 cos (2*pi/2n)(x1 + x2 +... xn))dx1 dx2 ... dxn

and the integral over the 1/2 just becomes 1/2, but the other side baffles me.

The Attempt at a Solution


My professor tried to do this, but I don't agree with his methodology. When he integrated it, he got pi/n out front, and if you keep integrating, this would go to pi^n / n^n . However, the integral should produce n^n / pi^n if I'm not mistaken, meaning this would diverge to infinity, and not go to zero like he said. Any ideas?
 
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Show the working for the definite integral over x1 first.
 
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Okay, so the first integral gives n/pi (sin(pi)), and the sin(pi) = 0, so you'd be integrating 0 from there on out. Is that correct?
 
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Sleestak said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the limit
1 1 1
lim ∫ ∫ ... ∫ cos^2((pi/2n)(x1 + x2 +... xn))dx1 dx2 ... dxn
0 0 0
n→∞

Homework Equations


Well, I know that we can change this using a double angle rule
Why? ##cos^2(\pi/(2n))## is a constant as far as any of the integrations are concerned. You can bring it out of all of the integrals.

Edit: Never mind. I didn't count enough parentheses.
Sleestak said:
, so that the integrals become 1/2 + 1/2 cos (2*pi/2n)(x1 + x2 +... xn))dx1 dx2 ... dxn

and the integral over the 1/2 just becomes 1/2, but the other side baffles me.

The Attempt at a Solution


My professor tried to do this, but I don't agree with his methodology. When he integrated it, he got pi/n out front, and if you keep integrating, this would go to pi^n / n^n . However, the integral should produce n^n / pi^n if I'm not mistaken, meaning this would diverge to infinity, and not go to zero like he said. Any ideas?
 
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Whoops, that's my bad. All of the x terms are inside the cosine as well, and all of them are multiplied by the pi/2n, so

cos^2( (pi/2n)*(x1 + x2 +... xn) )
 
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...putting ##X_m=\sum_{i=m}^n x_i## (saves typing)
$$\int_0^1 \cos \frac{\pi}{n}(x_1+X_2)\;dx_1 = \frac{n}{\pi}\big[\sin \frac{\pi}{n}(1+X_2)-\sin \frac{\pi}{n}X_2\big]$$ ... but I'm a little distracted.

@Mark44
The original problem is:
$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\int_0^1\cdots\int_0^1 \cos^2\left(\frac{\pi}{2n}X_1\right)\;dx_1\cdots dx_n$$
 
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Sleestak said:
Whoops, that's my bad. All of the x terms are inside the cosine as well, and all of them are multiplied by the pi/2n, so

cos^2( (pi/2n)*(x1 + x2 +... xn) )
No, my bad. What you wrote was clear, but I misread it.

Simon Bridge said:
...putting ##X_m=\sum_{i=m}^n x_i## (saves typing)
$$\int_0^1 \cos \frac{\pi}{n}(x_1+X_2)\;dx_1 = \frac{n}{\pi}\big[\sin \frac{\pi}{n}(1+X_2)-\sin \frac{\pi}{n}X_2\big]$$ ... but I'm a little distracted.

@Mark44
The original problem is:
$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\int_0^1\cdots\int_0^1 \cos^2\left(\frac{\pi}{n}X_1\right)\;dx_1\cdots dx_n$$
Gotcha.
 
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Sleestak said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the limit
1 1 1
lim ∫ ∫ ... ∫ cos^2((pi/2n)(x1 + x2 +... xn))dx1 dx2 ... dxn
0 0 0
n→∞

Homework Equations


Well, I know that we can change this using a double angle rule, so that the integrals become 1/2 + 1/2 cos (2*pi/2n)(x1 + x2 +... xn))dx1 dx2 ... dxn

and the integral over the 1/2 just becomes 1/2, but the other side baffles me.

The Attempt at a Solution


My professor tried to do this, but I don't agree with his methodology. When he integrated it, he got pi/n out front, and if you keep integrating, this would go to pi^n / n^n . However, the integral should produce n^n / pi^n if I'm not mistaken, meaning this would diverge to infinity, and not go to zero like he said. Any ideas?

It might help to use the fact that ##\cos(w)## is the real part of ##e^{iw}##, so you need to integrate
[tex] \int_0^1 \int_0^1 \cdots \int_0^1 e^{i c (x_1 + x_2 + \cdots + x_n)} \, dx_1 \, dx_2 \cdots \, dx_n,[/tex]
where ##c = \pi/n##. The exponential factors into separate factors for each variable, and so the n-fold integration is just the product of single-variable integrals. You can pull the "real part" operator outside all the integrals (why?).
 
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