Topology Question (Normal Spaces)

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In summary, The conversation discusses the topology of the Real line and whether a certain topology is normal or not. The topology in question has no disjoint open sets and therefore, no disjoint closed sets. The definition of normality requires disjoint closed sets, which is impossible in this case. Additionally, it is mentioned that the topology is not Hausdorff, but it is unclear if this necessarily means it is not normal.
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Not sure where to put a question about topology, but I'll try here.

I'm trying to show that a certain topology for the Real line is not normal. The topology in question has no disjoint open sets (they are all nested) and therefore, no disjoint closed sets.

If a topology has no disjoint closed sets, can it still be normal? I'd say not, but the only definition I have for normal requires me to start with disjoint closed sets, which in this case is impossible.

Another possible approach... I've been able to show that the topology in question is not Hausdorff. Does that necessarily mean it is not normal?

Any help is appreciated.
 
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According to munkres, for normality 1 point sets must be closed.
 
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It is correct that a topology with no disjoint closed sets cannot be normal. The definition of a normal space requires the existence of disjoint closed sets. If there are no disjoint closed sets, then the normality condition cannot be satisfied.

In general, a space that is not Hausdorff cannot be normal. This is because the Hausdorff condition is a stronger condition than normality. A space can be normal without being Hausdorff, but a space that is not Hausdorff cannot be normal.

To prove that the topology in question is not normal, you can use the fact that it is not Hausdorff. This is because a normal space must be Hausdorff, so if you can show that the space is not Hausdorff, then it cannot be normal.
 

FAQ: Topology Question (Normal Spaces)

What is a normal space in topology?

A normal space is a topological space that satisfies the separation axiom T4, which states that given any two disjoint closed sets, there exists two open sets that contain each of the closed sets and are also disjoint.

How is a normal space different from a regular space?

A normal space is a stronger condition than a regular space. While both satisfy the separation axiom T1, a normal space also satisfies the separation axiom T4, while a regular space only satisfies T3, meaning that it can separate a closed set from a point outside of it.

Can a normal space also be a metric space?

Yes, a normal space can also be a metric space. In fact, all metric spaces are normal spaces. However, not all normal spaces are metric spaces.

Are there any real-world applications of normal spaces?

Yes, normal spaces are used in various fields such as physics, engineering, and computer science. They are particularly useful in studying the properties of continuous functions, which have many applications in real-world systems.

Is every compact Hausdorff space a normal space?

Yes, every compact Hausdorff space is also a normal space. This is due to the fact that compact Hausdorff spaces satisfy the separation axiom T2, which is a weaker condition than T4, making them automatically satisfy T4 as well.

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