Topology - spaces, compactness

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In summary, a metric space and a closed, bounded subset within it can be found which is not compact, such as the example of the rationals with the usual distance, defined by the absolute value of the difference. This is due to the incompleteness of the rationals, as a set can be closed and bounded but not compact if it is incomplete.
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Homework Statement



Find a metric space and a closed, bounded subset in it which is not compact.

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I know that a metric space is a space that has definition such that a point has a distance to any other point. However, I know a compact space is bounded. I'm confused on what kind of subset of a metric space could be bounded yet not compact.

Background - I'm taking this course to fill a math minor, so my knowledge of abstract concepts is limited.
 
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Is there an interval or set that is neither closed nor open? I know if for example the rationals are being considered, they are neither closed nor open, and because of this fact, the rationals are not compact.
 
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Yes, there are sets which are neither closed nor open. Rationals are neither closed nor open regarded as a subset of reals, and indeed it's one of the things that prevents them from being compact.

As for the original question: rationals with usual distance, defined by the absolute value of the diference present fine example. We can take a closed interval, say, [tex][0,1][/tex], and because of incompleteness of rationals, it's not compact.

Compact space is necesarily bounded, but compactness enforces even stronger notion: total boundedness. Above example relies on incompleteness, but, for example, closed unit ball of infinite dimensional Banach space is closed, bounded and complete, yet still it's not compact.
 
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Yes, there are sets which are neither closed nor open. Rationals are neither closed nor open regarded as a subset of reals, and indeed it's one of the things that prevents them from being compact.

As for the original question: rationals with usual distance, defined by the absolute value of the diference present fine example. We can take a closed interval, say, [tex][0,1][/tex], and because of incompleteness of rationals, it's not compact.

Compact space is necesarily bounded, but compactness enforces even stronger notion: total boundedness. Above example relies on incompleteness, but, for example, closed unit ball of infinite dimensional Banach space is closed, bounded and complete, yet still it's not compact.

So, for instance in this example, If I take the space bounded by a circle of radius 2 centered on the origin, and the square bounded by x from [0,1] and y from [0,1] as the subset within it, the subset is closed and bounded, but because of incompleteness of the rationals this subset is not compact?
 
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Yes. It's enough to take just [tex][0,1][/tex] as a subset of rationals, as it is closed and bounded, yet not compact.
 

FAQ: Topology - spaces, compactness

What is topology?

Topology is a branch of mathematics that studies the properties of geometric shapes and spaces that are preserved under continuous deformations. It is concerned with the study of properties such as connectedness, continuity, and compactness.

What is a topological space?

A topological space is a set of points with a collection of open sets, which are subsets of the space that satisfy certain axioms. These axioms allow for the definition of concepts such as continuity and convergence, which are fundamental in topology.

What is compactness?

Compactness is a property of a topological space that describes how "small" the space is. A compact space is one in which every open cover has a finite subcover, meaning that a finite number of open sets can cover the entire space. In simpler terms, compactness means that there are no "holes" or "gaps" in the space.

What is the difference between compactness and connectedness?

While compactness and connectedness are both properties of topological spaces, they are distinct concepts. A space is considered connected if it cannot be split into two non-empty, disjoint open sets. On the other hand, a space is compact if every open cover has a finite subcover. In other words, connectedness refers to the "wholeness" of a space, while compactness refers to its "smallness".

Why is compactness important in topology?

Compactness is an important concept in topology because it allows for the study of properties that are preserved under continuous deformations. It also has applications in other areas of mathematics, such as calculus and differential equations. Additionally, many important theorems and results in topology rely on the concept of compactness.

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