Torque formula derivation for a particle moving in circular

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the tangential velocity and the radial velocity of a particle in circular motion, as well as the use of vectors to represent position and velocity. It is noted that while torque is present, it is not in the usual sense as in rigid body systems, but rather in the mathematical sense as a cross product of the position vector and net force.
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Consider that the particle is moving in circular with tangential velocity v, and (0,0)is its origin.

I wonder why dr/dt is equal to tangential velocity instead of radial velocity (since dr/dt means how much change in radial distance in a really short duration of time)
 
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Father_Ing said:
I wonder why dr/dt is equal to tangential velocity instead of radial velocity (since dr/dt means how much change in radial distance in a really short duration of time)
Note that r is the position vector of the particle, not merely the distance to the particle.
 
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Yes usually the bold letters in equations represent vectors. So ##\mathbf{r}## is a vector (the vector that denotes the position of the particle, hence position vector) and ##\frac{d\mathbf{r}}{dt}## is the velocity vector (by definition the velocity vector is the first time derivative of the position vector). It is the whole velocity, not only the radial or only the tangential.
 
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There is no torque in this situation.
 
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Lnewqban said:
There is no torque in this situation.
There is torque but it is not the "usual sense " torque that we have in rigid body systems.

Here the torque is more in the mathematical sense as the cross product of the position vector and the net force that is being applied to the point particle.
 
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FAQ: Torque formula derivation for a particle moving in circular

1. What is torque?

Torque is the measure of the force that can cause an object to rotate around an axis. It is calculated by multiplying the force applied to an object by the distance from the axis of rotation.

2. How is torque related to circular motion?

When a particle moves in a circular path, it experiences a force that is directed towards the center of the circle. This force, known as centripetal force, creates a torque that causes the particle to continue moving in a circular motion.

3. What is the formula for torque in circular motion?

The formula for torque in circular motion is τ = rFsinθ, where τ is the torque, r is the distance from the axis of rotation to the point where the force is applied, F is the force applied, and θ is the angle between the force and the lever arm (the distance from the axis of rotation to the point where the force is applied).

4. How is the torque formula derived for a particle moving in circular motion?

The torque formula is derived from the definition of torque as the cross product of the position vector and the force vector. By breaking down the position vector and the force vector into their components, and using trigonometric identities, the formula τ = rFsinθ can be derived.

5. What are the units of torque?

The units of torque are newton-meters (N*m) in the SI system and foot-pounds (ft*lb) in the imperial system. These units represent the product of the units of force (newtons or pounds) and the units of distance (meters or feet).

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