Total electric potential of systems of point charges

In summary, when determining the total potential energy of a system with three point charges, it is not enough to calculate the potential of one charge with respect to the other two and add them together. The process must be repeated for all three charges and the results must be added to obtain the total potential energy. This is because each charge experiences a different potential energy due to the presence of the other charges.
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Atomos
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suppose there existed 3 point charges with known charges and separating distances. I know you can determine the total potential of the system by using one charge as a reference (give it a potential of 0J), calculate the potential of another charge with respect to that charge (x J), and then calculate the last charges with respect to both charges (y J), and then the potential would be given as 0 J + x J + y J.

This seems perfectly logical to me, but I can't quite wrap my mind around why calculating the potential with respect to the other two of each charge and then adding is wrong.
 
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Atomos said:
I know you can determine the total potential of the system by using one charge as a reference (give it a potential of 0J), calculate the potential of another charge with respect to that charge (x J), and then calculate the last charges with respect to both charges (y J), and then the potential would be given as 0 J + x J + y J.

That does not give you the total potential energy. It just gives you the potential energy that the first charge sees. To get the total you have to repeat the process for the other two charges and add the results.

See the following web page:

http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy122/Lecture_Notes/Chapter26/Chapter26.html
 
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I can confirm that your understanding of calculating the total potential of a system of point charges is correct. The potential energy of a point charge is directly proportional to its charge and inversely proportional to the distance between the charges. Therefore, in a system of three point charges, the total potential energy can be calculated by adding the individual potentials of each charge with respect to a chosen reference point.

Calculating the potential with respect to the other two charges and then adding them together would not give an accurate representation of the total potential energy of the system. This is because the potential of a charge is affected by the presence of other charges in the system. By using one charge as a reference and calculating the potential of the other two charges with respect to it, we are taking into account the influence of all three charges on each other.

In summary, your method of calculating the total potential energy of a system of point charges is correct and aligns with the principles of electrostatics. It is important to consider the influence of all charges in the system when determining the potential energy of a specific charge.
 

FAQ: Total electric potential of systems of point charges

What is the formula for calculating the total electric potential of a system of point charges?

The formula for calculating the total electric potential of a system of point charges is given by V = k∑(q/r), where V is the electric potential, k is the Coulomb's constant, q is the point charge, and r is the distance between the point charge and the point where the potential is being calculated.

How is the total electric potential affected by the number and magnitude of point charges in a system?

The total electric potential is directly proportional to the number and magnitude of point charges in a system. This means that as the number of point charges and their magnitudes increase, the total electric potential also increases.

Can the total electric potential of a system of point charges be negative?

Yes, the total electric potential of a system of point charges can be negative. This occurs when the net charge of the system is negative, resulting in a negative value for the electric potential.

How does the distance between point charges affect the total electric potential?

The total electric potential is inversely proportional to the distance between point charges. This means that as the distance increases, the potential decreases and vice versa.

Is the total electric potential a vector or scalar quantity?

The total electric potential is a scalar quantity, meaning it has magnitude but no direction. This is because it is the sum of individual electric potentials, which are also scalar quantities.

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