Transforming Trigonometric expression

In summary: I would get\frac{\sin(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}+\frac{\cos(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}\left(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi)\right) = \left(1+\cot(\phi)\right) \left(1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)\right)which is the desired form! Great job!In summary, by simplifying the radicals using Pythagorean identities, expressing the resulting expressions in terms of sine and cosine only, and factoring the numerator using the sum of cubes formula, we were able to transform the left side expression into the desired form of the right side expression
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Drain Brain
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transform the first member to the second member

$\sqrt{\frac{\sec^{2}(\phi)-1}{\sec^{2}(\phi)(1+\cot^{2}(\phi))}}+\frac{\csc^{2}(\phi)}{\csc(\phi)}\sqrt{\frac{\csc^{2}(\phi)-1}{\csc^{2}(\phi)}} = (1+\cot(\phi))(1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi))$this is what I tried so far,

$\sin^{2}(\phi)+\cot(\phi)\cos^{2}(\phi) = (1+\cot(\phi))(1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi))$

I maybe out of idea on how to transform the left side expression to right side expression please help me. thanks!

 
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Drain Brain said:
transform the first member to the second member

$\sqrt{\frac{\sec^{2}(\phi)-1}{\sec^{2}(\phi)(1+\cot^{2}(\phi))}}+\frac{\csc^{2}(\phi)}{\csc(\phi)}\sqrt{\frac{\csc^{2}(\phi)-1}{\csc^{2}(\phi)}} = (1+\cot(\phi))(1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi))$


there's a typo in my first post it should be

$\sqrt{\frac{\sec^{2}(\phi)-1}{\sec^{2}(\phi)(1+\cot^{2}(\phi))}}+\frac{\cot^{2}(\phi)}{\csc(\phi)}\sqrt{\frac{\csc^{2}(\phi)-1}{\csc^{2}(\phi)}} = \left(1+\cot(\phi)\right)\left(1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)\right)$


Help please!
 
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Maybe it's just me,the first member cannot be transformed into the second member. But we can still prove that the given identity is true by some using algebraic manipulation.
 
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What? How come my trig book gives a problem like that. I think there's still a way around it.
 
  • #5
Drain Brain said:
What? How come my trig book gives a problem like that. I think there's still a way around it.

Again, I think it's just me. Just wait for the Math Helpers to tell you how to go about it.
Regards!
 
  • #6
Begin by simplifying the radicals using various Pythagorean identities.

Then simplify the resulting expressions be expressing in terms of sine and cosine only.

Then combine terms and factor the numerator using the sum of cubes formula.

Further distribution/simplification will give the desired result.
 
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MarkFL said:
Begin by simplifying the radicals using various Pythagorean identities.

Then simplify the resulting expressions be expressing in terms of sine and cosine only.

Then combine terms and factor the numerator using the sum of cubes formula.

Further distribution/simplification will give the desired result.

By doing so I end up getting,

$\frac{\sin^{3}(\phi)+\cos^{3}(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}=1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cot(\phi)-\cos^{2}(\phi)$I still could not get the desired form.
 
  • #8
Drain Brain said:
By doing so I end up getting,

$\frac{\sin^{3}(\phi)+\cos^{3}(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}=1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cot(\phi)-\cos^{2}(\phi)$I still could not get the desired form.

Okay, good, I too wound up with:

\(\displaystyle \frac{\sin^{3}(\phi)+\cos^{3}(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}\)

Now what do you get when factor the numerator as the sum of cubes?
 
  • #9
MarkFL said:
Okay, good, I too wound up with:

\(\displaystyle \frac{\sin^{3}(\phi)+\cos^{3}(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}\)t

Now what do you get when factor the numerator as the sum of cubes?
$\frac{\sin^{3}(\phi)+\cos^{3}(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}=\frac{(\sin(\phi)+\cos(\phi))(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi))}{\sin(\phi)}=
1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cot(\phi)-\cos^{2}(\phi)$

Still not the form that I want.
 
  • #10
Drain Brain said:
$\frac{\sin^{3}(\phi)+\cos^{3}(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}=\frac{(\sin(\phi)+\cos(\phi))(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi))}{\sin(\phi)}=
1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cot(\phi)-\cos^{2}(\phi)$

Still not the form that I want.

Hi Drain Brain,

There's still more you can do. Note that

\(\displaystyle \cos^2(\phi) = \cot(\phi) \tan(\phi) \cos^2(\phi) = \cot(\phi) [\tan(\phi) \cos(\phi)] \cos(\phi) = \cot(\phi) \sin(\phi) \cos(\phi).\)

Using this, you can regroup the terms and factor to get the result you want.
 
  • #11
Drain Brain said:
$\frac{\sin^{3}(\phi)+\cos^{3}(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}=\frac{(\sin(\phi)+\cos(\phi))(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi))}{\sin(\phi)}=
1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cot(\phi)-\cos^{2}(\phi)$

Still not the form that I want.

Okay, look at:

\(\displaystyle \frac{(\sin(\phi)+\cos(\phi))(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi))}{\sin(\phi)}\)

Write this as:

\(\displaystyle \frac{\sin(\phi)+\cos(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}\left(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi)\right)\)

Now...simplify the first factor by dividing each term in the numerator by $\sin(\phi)$, and apply a Pythagorean identity to the second factor...what do you get?
 
  • #12
MarkFL said:
Okay, look at:

\(\displaystyle \frac{(\sin(\phi)+\cos(\phi))(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi))}{\sin(\phi)}\)

Write this as:

\(\displaystyle \frac{\sin(\phi)+\cos(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}\left(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi)\right)\)

Now...simplify the first factor by dividing each term in the numerator by $\sin(\phi)$, and apply a Pythagorean identity to the second factor...what do you get?

I would get

\(\displaystyle \frac{\sin(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}+\frac{\cos(\phi)}{\sin(\phi)}\left(\sin^{2}(\phi)-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)+\cos^{2}(\phi)\right) = \left(1+\cot(\phi)\right) \left(1-\sin(\phi)\cos(\phi)\right)\)
 

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1. What is the process of transforming a trigonometric expression?

The process of transforming a trigonometric expression involves manipulating the given expression using various trigonometric identities and properties to simplify or rewrite it in a different form. This can include using sum and difference formulas, double angle formulas, or other trigonometric identities.

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