Trig substitution integral(need a check on the solution)

In summary, the conversation discussed the evaluation of an integral with trigonometric substitution and a change of variables. It was determined that using u=16-x^2 as the substitution would be simpler and that the limits should not be changed when converting back to x. The final result was 40/3.
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Homework Statement



this is the first problem like this I've ever tried so take it easy!:redface:

evaluate the integral

I = ∫ x^3/√(16-x^2) dx from 0 to 2√3

The Attempt at a Solution



- π/2 < ϑ < π/2
x = 4sinϑ , dx = 4cosϑdϑ

*x = 2√3, x/4 = sinϑ , sinϑ = √3/2 , ϑ = π/3
x = 0 sinϑ = 0 , ϑ = 0

4cosϑ = √(16-x^2)

I = ∫ (4sinϑ)^3 * 4cosϑdϑ /4cosϑ

I = ∫ (4sinϑ)^3 dϑ

I = 64 ∫ sin^3ϑ dϑ

I = 64 ∫ (1-cos^2ϑ)*sinϑ dϑ

u = cosϑ
du = -sinϑ

I = -64 ∫ (1-u^2)du
I = -64( cosϑ - cos^3ϑ/3) + C

converting back to x
sinϑ = x/4
cosϑ = √(x^2 -16)/4

I = -64{[ √(x^2 -16)/4] - [√(x^2 -16)/4]^3/3]} from 0 to π/3

i think i made a mistake because i get imaginary numbers here

maybe i wasnt supposed to convert back to x, but change the solve in an integral set to theta bounds and expressed in theta like below

I = -64( cosϑ - cos^3ϑ/3) + C from 0 to pi/3

-64[( 1/2 - 1/24) - (1 - 1/3)] = 40/3
 
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i) You actually don't need to use a trig substitution here. u=16-x^2 will actually do the job. ii) If you do, then if sin(x)=x/4 then cos(x)=sqrt(16-x^2)/4. Not the x^2-16 thing. That's where your imaginaries are coming from. And iii) If you've changed the variable back to x then the limits are 0 to 2*sqrt(3), not the theta limit of pi/3. Actually a lot of the rest of it is correct, which is good. But I didn't check every line.
 
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Dick said:
i) You actually don't need to use a trig substitution here. u=16-x^2 will actually do the job. ii) If you do, then if sin(x)=x/4 then cos(x)=sqrt(16-x^2)/4. Not the x^2-16 thing. That's where your imaginaries are coming from. And iii) If you've changed the variable back to x then the limits are 0 to 2*sqrt(3), not the theta limit of pi/3. Actually a lot of the rest of it is correct, which is good. But I didn't check every line.

i actually just realized that before i read your post, so is that last line (40/3) right
 
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vande060 said:
i actually just realized that before i read your post, so is that last line (40/3) right

If your final answer is 40/3, yes, I think that's right. I didn't actually check your details to the end.
 
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Dick said:
If your final answer is 40/3, yes, I think that's right. I didn't actually check your details to the end.

thanks a lot everything is clearer now
 

FAQ: Trig substitution integral(need a check on the solution)

What is a trigonometric substitution in integrals?

A trigonometric substitution is a method used to simplify integrals involving algebraic functions and trigonometric functions. It involves substituting a trigonometric function for a variable in the integrand, which then allows the integral to be evaluated using trigonometric identities.

When should trigonometric substitution be used?

Trigonometric substitution should be used when the integral involves expressions that can be rewritten in terms of trigonometric functions. This method is particularly useful for integrals involving radical expressions, rational functions, and products or powers of trigonometric functions.

How do you choose which trigonometric substitution to use?

The choice of trigonometric substitution depends on the form of the integrand. Some common substitutions include:
- For expressions involving √(a^2 - x^2), use x = a sinθ
- For expressions involving √(a^2 + x^2), use x = a tanθ
- For expressions involving √(x^2 - a^2), use x = a secθ
It is important to choose a substitution that will result in a simpler integral to evaluate.

What is the general process for solving a trigonometric substitution integral?

The general process for solving a trigonometric substitution integral is as follows:
1. Identify the appropriate substitution to use
2. Substitute the appropriate trigonometric function for the variable in the integrand
3. Use trigonometric identities to simplify the integral
4. Evaluate the integral and substitute the original variable back in

Are there any common mistakes to avoid when using trigonometric substitution?

One common mistake to avoid is forgetting to substitute the original variable back into the final solution. It is also important to be careful with the limits of integration, as they may need to be adjusted after the substitution. Another mistake is using the wrong substitution or making a mistake when simplifying the integral using trigonometric identities. It is important to double check the final solution and ensure that it matches the original integrand.

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