Turning Off a Measuring Device: Wave-to-Particle Possibility?

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In summary: I wish" (a wish)?Please comment on the physicsThe physics seems unclear to me as well. Unless you are referring to a specific experiment where turning off the measuring device causes the wave to collapse into a particle, this claim does not seem very plausible to me.
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I heard that if a measuing device is turned off, but is put into a position that, if turned on, would still be able to measure.. that this will still turn a wave into a particle
 
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Sabradin said:
I heard that if a measuing device is turned off, but is put into a position that, if turned on, would still be able to measure.. that this will still turn a wave into a particle
Unless you specify what you are talking more precisely, it does not seem very likely that this makes sense at all. At least it does not to me. What do you mean by turn off ? If you have an optical lens, you can't turn it off. If you have a magnetic field, most probably it's created from a current you can switch off. If you have a semiconductor photodetector, it does not matter whether voltage is off or on when it comes to collapsing a photon's wave function.
 
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how many differerent ways are there to try and measure a photon?
 
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Sabradin said:
how many differerent ways are there to try and measure a photon?
As many as one can think of I guess. How many materials can you build out of Mendeleev table ? Do you count measuring a photon with water different from measuring it with vapor or from ice ?
 
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okay, so with the semiconductor photodetector.. what is that exactly?

did you say that even if its turned off, that the wave still turns/collapses into a particle?
 
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lol don't assume I know what you do, I am not faking humility i really am this stupid

basically I am trying to find out if its something emitted from the (or a) device which causes the wave to collapse into a particle

the "essence" of the rumor is that even when the (or a) device isn't currently emitting something causing the wave to warp back to a particle.. that it still causes the collapse

began thinking about these things a month ago please be patient
 
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Sabradin said:
lol don't assume I know what you do, I am not faking humility i really am this stupid
Well, maybe I have seemed overreacting : I answer while it compiles, and there is nothing worse than a shared library which should load but does not :cry: Sorry if I seemed rude.

BTW, stupidity is very different from ignorance :wink:

basically I am trying to find out if its something emitted from the (or a) device which causes the wave to collapse into a particle
Formulated this way, the question becomes trickier. If there is any interaction whatsoever between the photon and the device, energy needs to be conserved. Ultimately, your photon hits an atom, maybe inside a molecule, but this atom will certainly reach an unstable excited state and indeed, emit something. However, if this emitted "thing" finally turns into phonons in a crystal, you have merely heated your device. Does it count as "emitting" ? You could say, yes, the heated device will emit (IR) radiation, that is a very long way to scatter a photon !
 
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As far as I know, there is nothing that is emitted by anything that goes up to a photon, says "Aha! I got you!" and makes its wave-function collapse.

The only way we detect photons is by them hitting something else and us seeing the aftermath.
 
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WarPhalange said:
The only way we detect photons is by them hitting something else and us seeing the aftermath.
Us seeing the aftermath. The photon carries an energy which has not been stored in a single atom after the photon has been absorbed. The atom would wait for you to check whether it has been excited ? At the very least you have one single Compton scattering.
 
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Sometimes I wish I was a moderator.
 
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peter0302 said:
Sometimes I wish I was a moderator.

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FAQ: Turning Off a Measuring Device: Wave-to-Particle Possibility?

Can a measuring device be turned off while measuring a wave?

Yes, a measuring device can be turned off while measuring a wave. Turning off the device will stop the measurement and the data will no longer be recorded.

Will turning off a measuring device affect the accuracy of the measurement?

Yes, turning off a measuring device can affect the accuracy of the measurement. This is because the device may need to be recalibrated or the data collected before turning off the device may be incomplete.

Can turning off a measuring device while measuring a wave cause any damage to the device?

It is unlikely that turning off a measuring device while measuring a wave will cause any damage to the device. However, it is important to follow the manufacturer's instructions for proper use and care of the device.

Is it better to turn off a measuring device while measuring a wave or to let it continue measuring?

It depends on the specific device and measurement being taken. In some cases, it may be necessary to turn off the device to prevent damage or to get an accurate measurement. In other cases, it may be better to let the device continue measuring in order to collect more data.

How do I properly turn off a measuring device while measuring a wave?

The best way to turn off a measuring device while measuring a wave is to follow the instructions provided by the manufacturer. In general, it is important to make sure the device is in a stable position and that any data has been saved before turning off the device.

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