Two chests connected by a rope in tension

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Two chests are connected by a 15-meter rope, with one chest moving away from the other at a velocity of 0.5 m/s. The setup involves right triangles formed by the distances from the chests to a ceiling hook, which is 4 meters high. The discussion explores the relationship between the velocities of the two chests, emphasizing the need to consider the geometry of the situation and the scaling factors of the triangles involved. Participants suggest analyzing the components of velocities in the direction of the ropes to find a solution. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the potential for different mathematical approaches.
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Two chests are connected by a 15 meters long rope attached to a ceiling hook hanging 4 meters high. The chest (1) at 5 meters from the hook has a velocity of 1/2 m/s away from the other chest (2). The chests remain flat on the ground and the rope is under tension.
What is the speed of the other chest?

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Let c1,2 be the chests, let h be the hook, let centre be the perpendicular projection of the hook on the ground.
We know the distance c1-centre (right triangle) at any time (1/2 m/s). We also know the distance c1-h (right triangle), h-c2 (length of the rope), hence we know the distance c2-centre (right triangle) at any time. The time derivative of this function at t=0 solves the problem.
Is there a shortcut, another approach? Can you think of any interesting physical or mathematical considerations? I don't think my solution is very satisfactory.
 
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Perhaps my question is a little too vague?
 
There are two right angled triangles and for each you know the hypotenuse and base length. In time δt the base of one of the triangles changes by a certain factor, and therefore the whole triangle is scaled by that factor. Can you see how to work out the scaling factor for the other triangle in that time?
 
Scaled triangles? The h(eight) of the two triangles is a constant, but it's an interesting take on a different problem.
 
JanEnClaesen said:
The h(eight) of the two triangles is a constant
Oops, that's a good point.
 
You could consider components of velocities in the directions of the attached ropes.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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