Two networks described by v-i graph: Find voltages when interconnected

In summary, the document discusses two electrical networks represented by voltage-current (v-i) graphs and outlines the methodology for determining the voltage values when these networks are interconnected. It emphasizes the importance of analyzing the characteristics of each network to accurately calculate the resultant voltages in the combined system.
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Homework Statement
Two networks, N1 and N2, are described graphically in terms of their ##v-i## relations, and connected together through a single resistor, as shown below

(a) Find the Thevenin and Norton equivalents of N1 and N2.

(b) Find the voltages ##v_1## and ##v_2## that result from the interconnection of N1 and N2.
Relevant Equations
##v=Ri##

Thevenin equivalent network.

Norton equivalent network.
This problem is from problem set 2 of MIT OCW's 6.002 "Circuits and Electronics". There are no solutions to these problems sets, so I am posting here in case anyone spots mistakes in my solution.

Here are the two interconnected networks and their ##v-i## graphs
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Here is the roadmap for this post

1) Obtain Thevenin and Norton equivalent networks for N1 going step-by-step.

2) Obtain Thevenin and Norton equivalent networks for N2 by simply inspection of the ##v-i## graph.

3) Obtain ##v_1## and ##v_2## when we interconnect N1 and N2.

Okay, starting with 1).

Here is what the Thevenin and Norton equivalent networks look like in general

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The ##v-i## relationship in the Thevenin equivalent network is

$$v=iR_t+V_{OC}\tag{1}$$

where ##V_{OC}## is the open circuit voltage between terminals + and - in the original circuit.

For the Norton equivalent network we have

$$i_{SC}+i-\frac{v}{R_t}=0\tag{2}$$

where ##i_{SC}## is the short circuit current when we short terminals + and - in the original circut.

We can solve (2) for ##v##

$$v=R_t(i+i_{SC})\tag{3}$$

and equating (1) and (3) we obtain

$$V_{OC}=i_{SC}R_t\tag{4}$$

Thus, if we find any two of ##R_t, V_{OC}##, and ##i_{SC}## then we can find the third. This allows us to easily obtain one equivalent network when we have the other.

Now, (1) and (3) give us the equations that permit us to draw graphs of ##v## as a function of ##i## for each network as is depicted in the first picture above.

Looking at it the other way around, given the graphs we can obtain the equations for the equivalent networks.

For the Thevenin equivalent network, when ##i=0## we have

$$v=V_{OC}\tag{5}$$

and when ##v=0## we have

$$i=-\frac{V_{OC}}{R_t}\tag{6}$$

For the Norton equivalent network, when ##i=0## we have

$$v=R_ti_{SC}\tag{7}$$ and when ##v=0## we have

$$i=-i_{SC}\tag{8}$$

Consider N1.

From (5) we have

$$-V_1=V_{OC}\tag{9}$$

and from (6)

$$I_1=-\frac{V_{OC}}{R_t}\tag{10}$$

Thus,

$$R_t=-\frac{V_{OC}}{I_1}=\frac{V_1}{I_1}\tag{11}$$

At this point we have ##R_t## and ##V_{OC}##, so the Thevenin equivalent network is

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The ##v-i## relationship is

$$v=i\frac{V_1}{I_1}-V_1\tag{12}$$

Before moving on though, let me just note that this equation could have been obtained much more quickly by inspection of the graph. Then, by comparing (12) with (1) we could have identified both ##R_t## and ##V_{OC}##.

Moving on, to obtain the Norton equivalent network, first obtain ##i_{SC}## using (4)

##i_{SC}=\frac{V_{OC}}{R_t}=-I_1\tag{13}##

Hence, we have the Norton equivalent network

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Now consider network B. Let's try to do the whole process more quickly.

The equation for the graph of the ##v-i## relationship for N2 is

$$v=V_2+\frac{V_2}{I_2}i\tag{14}$$

Hence,

$$V_2=V_{OC}=i_{SC}R_t\tag{15}$$
$$\frac{V_2}{I_2}=R_t\tag{16}$$

and so

$$i_{SC}=I_2\tag{17}$$

Hence we get the two equivalent networks

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Now let's consider item (b) where we connect the two circuits.

I'm going to be honest, I'm a bit tired of typing out these equations. so I am going to paste my written calculations.
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In words, we have four unknowns: ##v_1, v_2, i_1, i_2##.

KCL gives us one equation: ##i_1=-i_2##.

The ##v-i## relationships for N1 and N2 gives us two more equations.

Finally, KVL gives us one more equation.

Thus, we can solve the system.

(Just in case someone gets confused: There is a ##V_1## and a ##v_1##, and similarly for ##V_2## and ##v_2##.)
 
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It looks correct to me. For the handwriting, to distinguish a lower case "v" from upper case, I would write the lower case v in cursive (with a tail coming off the top).
 
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FAQ: Two networks described by v-i graph: Find voltages when interconnected

What is a v-i graph and how does it describe a network?

A v-i graph, or voltage-current graph, plots the relationship between the voltage (v) across a network and the current (i) flowing through it. It helps to visualize how the network responds to different voltages and currents, which can be used to understand its behavior and characteristics.

How do you determine the operating point when two networks are interconnected?

When two networks are interconnected, their v-i characteristics must be compatible at the point of interconnection. The operating point is found where the v-i graphs of both networks intersect, meaning the voltage and current values are the same for both networks at this point.

What methods can be used to find the intersection point of two v-i graphs?

To find the intersection point of two v-i graphs, you can use graphical methods by plotting both v-i curves on the same graph and identifying the intersection point. Alternatively, you can use algebraic methods by setting the equations of both curves equal to each other and solving for the voltage and current.

What happens if the v-i graphs of the two networks do not intersect?

If the v-i graphs of the two networks do not intersect, it means there is no common operating point where both networks can coexist with the same voltage and current. In such cases, the networks cannot be interconnected in a stable manner without additional components to modify their characteristics.

How can the interconnection of two networks affect their individual v-i characteristics?

When two networks are interconnected, the overall v-i characteristic of the combined system can be different from that of the individual networks. The interaction between the networks can lead to a new operating point, and the combined system's behavior must be analyzed considering the influence of both networks on each other.

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