Two object on top of each other with friction

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In summary, the conversation is about two physics problems involving blocks, planks, and springs. The first problem asks for the maximum compression of a spring supporting a block and plank on an inclined plane, while the second problem involves using a spring to swing a mass in a circle. The conversation also includes the use of equations and the request for a step-by-step solution.
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Homework Statement



Question 1
1 A block of mass mb sits atop a at wooden plank of mass mp on a plane inclined an angle theta with respect to thehorizontal. The two are supported near the bottom of the plane by a spring of spring constant k that is in contactwith the plank but not the block. If the coecient of friction between the plank and the plane is µ1 and the coefficent of friction between the block and the plank is µ2 answer the following questions.
a. Find an expression for the maximum compression of the spring such that the plank and block remain at rest.
b. If the spring is compressed three times the amount you found in part (a) find the initial acceleration of theplank and the acceleration of the block given the following values: k = 4025N/m, mp = 1.2kg, mb = 4.3kg, µ1 = 0.12, µ2 = 0:07.

Question 2
A spring of spring constant k is used to swing a mass m around in a circle. The equilibrium length of the spring l0, and when it swings the mass in a horizontal circle it stretches by an amount that is twice the amount it stretcheswhen the mass is just hanging on the spring. Find the velocity at which this happens and the angle that the springmakes with respect to vertical.

Homework Equations


F=ma
i know we have to find all the x and y components , but i am really confused with sins and cosines .

The Attempt at a Solution



when i attempted the first my professor kinda laughed at me
for the first question i found Normal force and then plugged it in into friction minus K = ma

i would really appreciate if you guys kindly answer these questions
 
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David Hamshir said:
for the first question i found Normal force and then plugged it in into friction minus K = ma
It's not clear to me what you did. Try this. Treat the block+plank as a single system. What forces act on that system? (Draw yourself a free body diagram.)
 
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Well can u kindly answer these two problems for me, and show all your steps please, i would really appreciate it sir , thank you so much
 

FAQ: Two object on top of each other with friction

What is friction and how does it affect two objects on top of each other?

Friction is a force that occurs when two surfaces are in contact and moving against each other. In the case of two objects on top of each other, friction can either help keep the objects in place or cause them to slide against each other depending on the direction and strength of the force.

How does the weight of the objects impact the friction between them?

The weight of the objects can impact the friction between them because it determines the normal force, which is the force perpendicular to the surface that the objects are in contact with. The greater the normal force, the greater the friction force will be.

Can the type of surface affect the amount of friction between two objects on top of each other?

Yes, the type of surface can affect the amount of friction between two objects. The rougher the surface, the greater the friction force will be. Smooth surfaces have less friction compared to rough surfaces.

Is the friction between two objects on top of each other always static?

No, the friction between two objects on top of each other can be either static or kinetic. Static friction occurs when the objects are not moving relative to each other, while kinetic friction occurs when there is relative motion between the objects.

How can the coefficient of friction affect the motion of two objects on top of each other?

The coefficient of friction is a measure of how easily two surfaces slide against each other. A higher coefficient of friction means that it is harder to slide the objects against each other, while a lower coefficient of friction means it is easier for the objects to slide. This can impact the motion of the objects and determine if they will stay in place or slide against each other.

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