Understanding Bound Charges and Their Mathematical Derivation

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of bound charges and their relationship to mathematical calculations. The individual is seeking clarification on the use of gradients with respect to source coordinates and how to differentiate with respect to r'. They also question the relationship between r and r' and how it affects the integral.
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aaaa202
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Upon reading about bound charges I stumbled on something I didn't quite understand. It is not a physical thing but purely a mathematical thing.

In the attached section my book wants to take the gradient:

∇'(1/r)

with respect to the source coordinates, r'. Now, can someone by inspection of the attached file tell me what these source coordinates represent. Are they they coordinates of a point inside some charge distribution with respect to a fixed point inside the distribution? Would that then mean that in vector notation:

r = R + r'

where R is the distance from P to the reference point inside the distribution?

And from all that can someone tell me how you would differentiate ∇'(1/r) with respect to
r' to get the answer in the bottom of the attached file? :)

thanks
 

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hi aaaa202! :smile:
aaaa202 said:
… can someone by inspection of the attached file tell me what these source coordinates represent. Are they they coordinates of a point inside some charge distribution with respect to a fixed point inside the distribution?

no, (the diagram should say so, but doesn't :redface: …) they're the coordinates of the point marked "P" (which isn't the name of the point, it's the dipole moment density vector :rolleyes:) wrt a fixed origin (whose position doesn't matter)
… how you would differentiate ∇'(1/r) with respect to r' to get the answer in the bottom of the attached file? :)

should be easy now :wink:
 
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I'm still a little confused on how r depends on r'. If R is the distance to the origin used for the coordinates r' isn't then, as I said:

r = R + r'

? :)
 
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let's see …

in that integral, r is the outside point, and is fixed (a constant)

r is explained as the distance from r to r',

so r2 (the denominator) = (r - r')2

(the notation they're using is very misleading :redface:)
 

FAQ: Understanding Bound Charges and Their Mathematical Derivation

What are bound charges?

Bound charges are electric charges that are created when polarized molecules or atoms are exposed to an external electric field. These charges are not free to move and are therefore referred to as "bound".

How are bound charges different from free charges?

Bound charges are different from free charges in that they are not able to move freely throughout a material. Free charges, on the other hand, are able to move and conduct electricity.

What is the process of deriving bound charges?

The process of deriving bound charges involves calculating the electric field inside a material, taking into account the polarized molecules or atoms and their orientations in relation to the external electric field. This allows for the determination of the bound charges present in the material.

Why are bound charges important in understanding electric fields?

Bound charges are important in understanding electric fields because they contribute to the overall electric field within a material. Without taking bound charges into account, the electric field inside a material would be underestimated, leading to inaccurate predictions and explanations.

How can the presence of bound charges affect the behavior of materials?

The presence of bound charges can affect the behavior of materials in various ways. For example, they can affect the dielectric properties of a material, making it more or less resistant to the flow of electricity. Bound charges can also contribute to the polarization and alignment of molecules in a material, leading to changes in the material's physical properties.

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