Understanding Circular Motion: Exploring Vectors and Perpendicularity in Physics

In summary, the velocity vector is perpendicular to the position vector, but the acceleration vector is not perpendicular to the velocity vector.
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Im a bit confused about a question on circular motion that I'm answering. Ill state the entire question and then say what I am confused about.

In class we discussed circular motion for the case

[tex]\displaystyle{\frac{d\theta}{dt} = \omega}[/tex]

Now assume that the circle has radius [tex]r[/tex] and that

[tex]\displaystyle{\frac{d\theta}{dt} = 2t}[/tex]

for [tex]t[/tex] in seconds. Let [tex]\theta(t = 0) = 0[/tex]

(therefore [tex]\theta = t^2[/tex])

a) Find [tex]\vec{r}(t)[/tex]

b) Find [tex]\vec{v}(t)[/tex]. is [tex]\vec{v} \perp \vec{r}[/tex]?

c) Find [tex]\vec{a}(t)[/tex]. Express [tex]\vec{a}[/tex] in terms of [tex]\vec{r}[/tex] and [tex]\vec{v}[/tex]. Is [tex]\vec{a} \perp \vec{v}[/tex]?

d) With respect to the circle's centre, sketch [tex]\vec{r},\vec{v}[/tex] and [tex]\vec{a}[/tex] for counter clockwise rotation.


Ok. I have found all the vectors in i-j form. My question is about the perpendicularity questions. Mathematically I have found that [tex]\vec{r} \perp \vec{v}[/tex] and that [tex]\vec{a} \perp \vec{v}[/tex]. I have also found that [tex]\vec{a}[/tex] can be written as [tex]-\alpha \vec{r}[/tex] (where [tex]\alpha[/tex] is a constant. All this implies that the acceleration vector is pointed back into the centre of the circle as some negative multiple of [tex]\vec{r}[/tex].

If this is so then how is the particle speeding up?? (the rate of change of theta is time dependent)

I would have thought that the acceleration vector would have been at some angle to the position vector. But then it wouldn't move in a circle... I am confused...


Also, the second part of (c) I am finding hard. Anyone any ideas?
 
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The position vector is perpendicular to the velocity vector, but the acceleration vector is NOT perpendicular to the velocity vector!
 
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hmm... thankyou for your reply. I can't agree though. I got

[tex]\vec{r}(t) = r\cos (t^2)\vec{i} + r\sin (t^2)\vec{j}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{v}(t) = -2tr\sin (t^2)\vec{i} + 2tr\cos (t^2)\vec{j}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{a}(t) = -4t^2r\cos(t^2)\vec{i} - 4t^2r\sin(t^2)\vec{j}[/tex]

Then if you find the dot product

[tex]\vec{a}.\vec{v} = 8t^3r^2\sin(t^2)\cos(t^2) - 8t^3r^2\sin(t^2)\cos(t^2) = 0[/tex]

Which implies they are perpendicular... Is my logic wrong?
 
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You have not differentiated [tex]\vec{v}[/tex] correctly:
[tex]\frac{d\vec{v}}{dt}=(\frac{d}{dt}2tr)(-\sin(t^{2})\vec{i}+\cos(t^{2})\vec{j})+2tr\frac{d}{dt}(-\sin(t^{2})\vec{i}+\cos(t^{2})\vec{j})=[/tex]
[tex]2r(-\sin(t^{2})\vec{i}+\cos(t^{2})\vec{j})+4t^{2}r(-\cos(t^{2})\vec{i}-\sin(t^{2})\vec{j})[/tex]
 
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Ahh! It didnt even occur to me that it might have changed into a product! Thankyou so much!
 

FAQ: Understanding Circular Motion: Exploring Vectors and Perpendicularity in Physics

What is circular motion?

Circular motion is the movement of an object along a circular path. It occurs when an object travels at a constant speed around a fixed point, also known as the center of rotation.

How is circular motion different from linear motion?

In circular motion, the object moves along a curved path, while in linear motion, the object moves along a straight path. Additionally, in circular motion, the object's velocity is constantly changing as it moves around the circle, while in linear motion, the velocity remains constant.

What causes circular motion?

Circular motion can be caused by a force, such as gravity or tension, acting on an object perpendicular to its velocity. This force is known as the centripetal force and is necessary to keep the object moving along its circular path.

How do we calculate the speed of an object in circular motion?

The speed of an object in circular motion can be calculated using the formula v = 2πr/T, where v is the speed, r is the radius of the circle, and T is the time taken to complete one full revolution. This formula is known as the tangential speed formula.

What is the difference between circular motion and rotational motion?

Circular motion involves the movement of an object along a circular path, while rotational motion involves the spinning of an object around its own axis. In circular motion, the object's position changes in space, while in rotational motion, the object's orientation changes in space.

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