Understanding Gravitation: The Relationship Between Earth and Moon

In summary, the gravitational force between Earth and the Moon causes them to orbit around each other, with each pulling the other with an equal force. The Moon will not collide with the Earth as long as gravity keeps it in orbit. The "string model" analogy is correct in that it represents the tension of gravity keeping an object in orbit, but it fails to account for the effects of friction and air resistance. Additionally, the Earth also moves slightly towards the Moon due to the gravitational pull, but as the Earth is much larger, the effect is negligible.
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We all know that moon is under the influence of Earth gravitational force and vice versa. This force causes the circular motion of Moon (and Earth as well). Earth pulls Moon with a force F and Moon pulls Earth with the same force. This has occupied me a long time:
Will Moon eventually fall down to Earth (collision is maybe a better term)?

If not, how should I try to understand gravitation? At the moment I use this kind of example:
Earth is like me swinging an object around me, the object is attached to a string and the string is like gravitation, it holds the object on orbit. Still, this causes some problems to me. When I swing that object I'll lose energy (or do I?) - I can't swing it forever. However, Earth doesn't loose any energy "swinging" the Moon, does it?
What is wrong in my model?
 
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KingOfTwilight said:
If not, how should I try to understand gravitation? At the moment I use this kind of example:
Earth is like me swinging an object around me, the object is attached to a string and the string is like gravitation, it holds the object on orbit. Still, this causes some problems to me. When I swing that object I'll lose energy (or do I?) - I can't swing it forever. However, Earth doesn't loose any energy "swinging" the Moon, does it?
What is wrong in my model?

What the string does is to keep the object from going in a straight line - in a direction tangential to its orbit/trajectory (the path the object would have taken in the absence of the tension in the string). Although you may lose energy in the physiological sense of the term and hence may losen your grip on the string, in the case of the Earth, it is not so. Everything that has mass gravitates. As long the there is the pull of gravity to keep the moon in place (strictly speaking, the moon does not maintain a perfect orbit and is slowly moving away), it's not going to collide with the Earth.

Hope this helps.
 
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when you swing the object arounf you it will be slowed down due to friction (in the string as well as air resistance). In order to keep it rotating you will have to add energy into it all the time which will obvioulsy take energy from you and hence you can do it forever...

the moon on the other hand does have extremely low friction (not string holding it :)... nor very much fluid resistance if any). So it don't need to be acclerated to keep roatating unlike your object so the moon doesn't need any eergy from the earth...

but on the other hand the gravity doesn't only pull the moon towards the earth... it also pulls the Earth towards the moon.. so the Earth moves a litlte towards the moon. But as the moon rotates around the Earth and affects it from all sides it shouldn't move eearth very much...
 
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Thanks, so my "string model" is correct, friction just takes too big effect and that's why it fails.
Strid: Yes. Both Earth and Moon go around one center of mass but Earth is so much bigger that the mass center isn't very far away from Earth's center.
 

FAQ: Understanding Gravitation: The Relationship Between Earth and Moon

What is the force of gravity between the Earth and the Moon?

The force of gravity between the Earth and the Moon is approximately 1.98 x 10^20 Newtons. This is a result of the masses of both objects and the distance between them.

Why does the Moon orbit around the Earth?

The Moon orbits around the Earth due to the force of gravity between the two objects. The Earth's gravitational pull keeps the Moon in its orbit.

How does the distance between the Earth and the Moon affect the force of gravity?

The force of gravity between the Earth and the Moon is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. This means that as the distance increases, the force of gravity decreases. Therefore, the closer the Earth and Moon are, the stronger the force of gravity between them.

What is the difference between mass and weight in relation to gravitation?

Mass is a measure of the amount of matter an object contains, while weight is a measure of the force of gravity acting on an object. The Earth's gravitational pull on the Moon is what causes its weight to be approximately 1/6th of its weight on Earth.

How does the Moon's gravitational pull affect the Earth?

The Moon's gravitational pull affects the Earth in several ways. It causes the tides in the ocean, creates a slight bulge in the Earth's shape, and helps stabilize the Earth's rotation on its axis. The Moon's gravity also plays a role in the Earth's climate and weather patterns.

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