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A limit point of a sequence is defined as a point x where every open interval around x contains infinitely many points from the sequence. This definition implies that while x itself may not be part of the sequence, there are infinitely many sequence elements in any interval surrounding x. For instance, 0 is a limit point of the sequence a_n = 1/n, as intervals around 0 contain infinitely many terms from the sequence. The discussion clarifies that limit points can apply to both sequences and sets, emphasizing that the sequence's order is not crucial to the definition. Ultimately, if any interval around x contains even one sequence element different from x, then x qualifies as a limit point.
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In my textbook, it gives the following definition of a limit point:

"A point x is a limit point of a sequence x_1,x_2,... if every open interval containing x also contains points x_n for infinitely many n"

I am taking this to mean that every open interval containing x must also contain an infinite amount of other points from the sequence (though this doesn't necessarily mean that it contains every point of the sequence).

Is my understanding correct?
 
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Yes. For example, 0 is a limit point of the sequence a_n = 1/n.
Although 0 is not itself in the sequence, any interval (-\epsilon, \epsilon) contains infinitely many points from the sequence. For example, for \epsilon = \frac{1}{\sqrt{10}}, the interval does not contain a1, a2 and a3, but it does contain all other elements.

Note that the sequence needn't convert, if you take
a_{2n} = 1/n, a_{2n + 1} = 1
then 0 is still a limit point (and so is 1).

If I'm not mistaken, x is a limit point of a sequence S iff S has a subsequence S' which converges (Cauchy, and all) to S'. So basically, if part of the sequence has x as a limit. It's been a while since I did analysis though :smile:
 
technically, limit pts have nothing to do with sequences
i personally think limit pt defines some special property of cercain set
 
davyjones said:
technically, limit pts have nothing to do with sequences
i personally think limit pt defines some special property of cercain set

Limit points work just as well with sequences as with sets. Since the definition of a limit point does not refer at all to the order of the sequence, it's just a special case where the set is countably infinite.
 
your way of rephrasing the definition lost slightly some precision. The definition said that there are infiniutely many INDICES n for which x(n) belongs to the set, not infinitely many POINTS.

so the sequence could have repetitions. e.g. if the sequence is the constant sequence with all x(n) = x, then the definition is satisfied as you gave it for x to be a limit point.In an everyday space like the real numbers, and your language "interval" implies that is your space, it will be true that if every open interval about x contains an x(n) for even one n which is different from x, then also every interval contains an infinite number of them.

so you could say also that if every interval around x contains even one x(n) not equal to x, then x is a limit point. however if you want the constant sequence above to have x as a limit point, then you need the version you originally gave.
 
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