Understanding the Integral in a Proof: A Closer Look at the Role of Supp and Chi

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In summary, the conversation discusses the proof of why it holds that $\int u_j \phi dx = \int (\psi_j \ast u) \phi dx$. The reasoning involves showing that $\chi(x/j) = 1$ for $|x| < j$ and then using this to simplify the integral. The conversation ends with a note of understanding and gratitude.
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Hello! (Wave)

I am looking at the following proof:View attachment 5454

Why does it hold that $\int u_j \phi dx= \int (\psi_j \ast u) \phi dx$ ?
 

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We have that $X(\frac{x}{j})=1$ for $|x|<j$, right? And since we pick $j$ sufficiently large, it's like if we had $-\infty<j<+\infty$ and so we have $X(\frac{x}{j})=1$ for all the values of $x$, right?
 
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You are correct that $\chi(x/j) = 1$ for $|x| < j$. To proceed, let $M > 0$ such that $\operatorname{supp}(\phi)\subset [-M,M]^n$; choose $j > M$. Then $\phi(x) = 0$ for all $|x| \ge j$. Thus, for all $j > M$,

$$\int u_j\phi\, dx = \int \chi\left(\frac{x}{j}\right)(\psi_j * u)\phi(x)\ dx = \int_{|x| < j} \chi\left(\frac{x}{j}\right)(\psi_j * u)\phi(x)\, dx = \int_{|x| < j} (\psi_j * u)\phi\, dx = \int (\psi_j * u)\phi\, dx$$
 
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You are correct that $\chi(x/j) = 1$ for $|x| < j$. To proceed, let $M > 0$ such that $\operatorname{supp}(\phi)\subset [-M,M]^n$; choose $j > M$. Then $\phi(x) = 0$ for all $|x| \ge j$. Thus, for all $j > M$,

$$\int u_j\phi\, dx = \int \chi\left(\frac{x}{j}\right)(\psi_j * u)\phi(x)\ dx = \int_{|x| < j} \chi\left(\frac{x}{j}\right)(\psi_j * u)\phi(x)\, dx = \int_{|x| < j} (\psi_j * u)\phi\, dx = \int (\psi_j * u)\phi\, dx$$

I got it... Thanks a lot! (Smirk)
 

FAQ: Understanding the Integral in a Proof: A Closer Look at the Role of Supp and Chi

Why is this the integral for a given function?

The integral for a given function is a way to find the total area under the curve of that function. It is a fundamental concept in calculus and is used to solve a variety of problems in physics, engineering, and other sciences.

How is the integral related to the derivative?

The integral and derivative are inverse operations of each other. The derivative measures the instantaneous rate of change of a function, while the integral measures the total change or area under the curve of that function. They are both essential tools for understanding and analyzing functions.

What is the purpose of using the integral in scientific research?

The integral is used in scientific research to solve problems that involve finding the total amount or accumulation of something over a continuous interval. It is also used to find solutions to differential equations, which are used to model real-world phenomena in various scientific fields.

Can the integral be used to solve real-world problems?

Yes, the integral is a powerful tool that is used to solve a wide range of real-world problems. It is commonly used in physics, engineering, economics, and other sciences to calculate quantities such as area, volume, work, and probability.

How can I calculate an integral without using calculus?

It is not possible to calculate an integral without using calculus. The fundamental theorem of calculus states that the integral of a function is equal to the anti-derivative of that function. This means that in order to calculate an integral, you need to use techniques from calculus, such as integration by parts or substitution.

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