Understanding the < > Notation for Subgroups: A Closer Look

In summary, the conversation discusses the interpretation of <S> for a set S, specifically in the context of a group with addition as the operation. The definition given is that <a> is the set of all integral powers of a for a given operation, but the question arises for a set S = {a, b, c} what <a, b, c> would turn out to be. The source of confusion is that the subgroup <9, 12> would be expected to only consist of multiples of 9 and 12, but it is actually the set of all multiples of 3. It is clarified that <a> notation means the subgroup generated by a, and this can be interpreted as a linear combination between
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I'm having a bit of a tough time interpreting <S> for a set S. I know for an element a, <a> is the set of all integral powers of a with respect to a given operation, but for a set S = {a, b, c}, what would <a, b, c> turn out as?

Edit: The source of my trouble is with this: The subgroup <9, 12> of the group of integers with addition as the operation contains 12 + (-9) = 3 (in order for it to be a group). Here is what the text says: "Therefore <9, 12> must contain all multiples of 3." I thought <9, 12> would only consist of multiples of 9 and 12, but apparently, there is more to it.
 
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Not knowing more about the group in question, I am assuming that the group operation is addition. Then [itex]\langle 9, 12 \rangle[/itex] is going to be all linear combinations of 9 and 12, i,.e. [itex]9m+12n[/itex] for integers m and n. It turns out that that this is identical to the set of all multiples of 3.

I suspect that for any two intgers a and b that [itex]\langle a,b \rangle = \langle \gcd (a,b) \rangle[/itex].

--Elucidus
 
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Thanks for the reply...it seems as though it never came to me anywhere in the text. I was thinking the notation for <a1, a2 ... an> was simply the set of all integral powers of the elements.

So from this, I'm assuming that < > with respect to addition can be interpreted as a linear combination between elements in the group, right?
 
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Are you sure < > notation was never defined in that book? From your comments, I am guessing that (for that book) <S> means the subgroup generated by S.
 
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g_edgar said:
Are you sure < > notation was never defined in that book? From your comments, I am guessing that (for that book) <S> means the subgroup generated by S.

Yup...that was part of its definition. The definition it gave was: <a> is the set of all integral powers of a for a given operation. They then went into further analysis. I just wasn't sure what <S> of a set S = {a, b, c, ...} was since the definition they gave was for a single element a.
 

FAQ: Understanding the < > Notation for Subgroups: A Closer Look

What is the definition of integral multiples of a set?

Integral multiples of a set are the numbers that can be obtained by multiplying each element in the set by an integer (positive, negative, or zero). In other words, it is the set of all possible products of the elements in the original set and any integer.

How do you determine if a number is an integral multiple of a set?

To determine if a number is an integral multiple of a set, you can divide the number by each element in the set. If the result is an integer, then that number is an integral multiple of the set.

Can a set have an infinite number of integral multiples?

No, a set can only have a finite number of integral multiples. This is because there are only a finite number of integers to multiply the elements of the set by.

Is the set of integral multiples of a set always a subset of the set itself?

Yes, the set of integral multiples of a set is always a subset of the set itself. This is because all the elements in the set of integral multiples can be obtained by multiplying the elements of the original set by integers.

Are integral multiples of a set always integers?

Not necessarily. While integral multiples are obtained by multiplying elements of a set by integers, the resulting product may not always be an integer. For example, if the set contains non-integer elements, the integral multiples may also be non-integers.

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