Understanding the Performance Differences: 16V vs 8V Engines

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In summary, the conversation discusses the reasons behind 16V engines producing more horsepower and 8 valve engines producing more torque at lower rev ranges. The explanation is based on the flow area of valves and the real estate occupied by them in the cylinder head, with the conclusion being that using more and smaller valves allows for more flow area and better breathing, resulting in increased power. The conversation also mentions the use of variable valve systems to induce swirl in the cylinder for better combustion at low rpm.
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I want to know exactly why 16V engines produce more HP?
Please explain in detail.
What is the exact reason?
Why usually 8 Valve engines produce more torque lower down the rev range?
 
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Look at the LSx series engine from GM. Two valves per cylinder and they make good power. 400 HPs from 5.7 liters.
 
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I thinnk it's a practical matter - manufacturability.

The flow area through which the engine "breathes" would be the circumference of the valve, not its area, times valve lift.

flow area of valve = pi X diameter X height
cylinder head real estate occupied by valve = pi X (diameter/2)^2

Make it simple - look at one 2" valve vs two 1" valves, all having 1/2 " lift..

The two inch valve requires pi square inches of cylinder head real estate, and provides pi square inches of flow area.

The smaller valves provide the same flow area in half the cylinder head real estate.

So, when valve flow area becomes the limit on breathing, which would be at high RPM, switch to more and smaller valves . That way you can fit more flow area into available real estate.

Sound logical?
 
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2milehi said:
Look at the LSx series engine from GM. Two valves per cylinder and they make good power. 400 HPs from 5.7 liters.

So what?
The reason for 2 valves per cylinder creating better low down torque, is partially inlet geometry. Typically the valve is off to the side, so when the cylinder fills swirl is generated, allowing for a better mixture and combustion. At high rpm tumble is the dominant flow in cylinder.

Variable valve systems with 4 valves, now shut off 1 inlet at low rpm to induce swirl in cylinder.
 

FAQ: Understanding the Performance Differences: 16V vs 8V Engines

What is the difference between 16 valve and 8 valve engines?

The main difference between 16 valve and 8 valve engines is the number of valves they have. 16 valve engines have 4 valves per cylinder (2 intake and 2 exhaust), while 8 valve engines have 2 valves per cylinder (1 intake and 1 exhaust).

Which one is more powerful, a 16 valve or 8 valve engine?

Generally, 16 valve engines are more powerful than 8 valve engines. This is because they have more valves, allowing for better air and fuel flow and more efficient combustion.

Do 16 valve engines use more fuel than 8 valve engines?

It depends on the specific engine and its design. However, in general, 16 valve engines may use slightly more fuel than 8 valve engines due to their increased power and higher revving capabilities.

Do 16 valve engines require more maintenance than 8 valve engines?

Again, this depends on the specific engine and its design. However, since 16 valve engines have more valves, they may require more regular maintenance to ensure they are functioning properly.

Can a 16 valve engine be converted to an 8 valve engine?

Technically, it is possible to convert a 16 valve engine to an 8 valve engine. However, it would require significant modifications and may not be practical or cost-effective.

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