Understanding the Second Derivative

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of the second derivative and its relation to the rate of change. The quiz question asks to identify the point of inflection on a graph, and the participants debate between point A and B as the correct answer. The conclusion is that point B is the correct answer, as it is where the concavity changes. The point of inflection is the point where the concavity changes from upward to downward or vice versa.
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Chase.
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I'm having trouble thinking about the second derivative. I've been thinking of it as the rate of change of the rate of change, but that seems to have gotten me into some trouble.

This is a quiz question that I had:

http://i.imgur.com/WUMqY5C.jpg

Ignore the first part, as it should read f' < 0. This leaves only point A and B. I chose B since although the rate of change is negative, it's not accelerating or decelerating. It looks to be remaining rather constant. I think the correct answer is A, which doesn't make sense to me - the rate of change is decreasing, but it's decreasing faster and faster around the A point.

Can someone help me understand this concept?
 
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  • #2
Chase. said:
I'm having trouble thinking about the second derivative. I've been thinking of it as the rate of change of the rate of change, but that seems to have gotten me into some trouble.

This is a quiz question that I had:

http://i.imgur.com/WUMqY5C.jpg

Ignore the first part, as it should read f' < 0. This leaves only point A and B. I chose B since although the rate of change is negative, it's not accelerating or decelerating. It looks to be remaining rather constant. I think the correct answer is A, which doesn't make sense to me - the rate of change is decreasing, but it's decreasing faster and faster around the A point.

Can someone help me understand this concept?

B sounds correct. The answer on the quiz may be wrong.
 
  • #3
I'm not sure that A is the correct answer, but it was what a lot of other people picked. And if I'm not mistaken, isn't the second derivative the point of inflection? I think A better fits that profile.
 
  • #4
Looks like to me that the answer is point B. Between A & B the graph is concave downward, and between B & C the graph is concave upward. The point of inflection is where concavity changes between upward and downward (or vice versa).

EDIT: I edited this post after I saw the previous responses.
 
  • #5
Oh you're right... the point of inflection is point B. This obviously isn't the exact graph that was on the quiz but I tried to do a good depiction of it. I hope that B was the actual point of inflection.
 

FAQ: Understanding the Second Derivative

What is the second derivative?

The second derivative is a mathematical concept that describes the rate of change of the rate of change of a function. It is denoted by f''(x) or d2y/dx2.

Why is the second derivative important?

The second derivative can provide valuable information about the behavior of a function. It can tell us about the concavity, inflection points, and extrema of a function.

How is the second derivative calculated?

The second derivative of a function can be calculated by taking the derivative of the first derivative. This is known as taking the derivative of the derivative.

What does a positive/negative second derivative indicate?

A positive second derivative indicates that the function is concave up, meaning it is curving upwards. A negative second derivative indicates that the function is concave down, meaning it is curving downwards.

Can the second derivative be used to determine the nature of a critical point?

Yes, the second derivative test can be used to determine the nature of a critical point. If the second derivative is positive at a critical point, it is a local minimum. If the second derivative is negative, it is a local maximum. If the second derivative is zero, further analysis is needed to determine the nature of the critical point.

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