Understanding the Symmetry of SU(N) Subgroups in Srednicki's Notation

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of T(A) and T(S) for the subgroup SU(2) of SU(N). The notation 1s (or 1's) refers to the symmetrical singlet, and the problem lies in understanding why one term is symmetric and the other is anti-symmetric. The use of Young Tableaux is mentioned, but the individual is unsure of how to apply them in this context. The conversation also includes an example using the SU(3) subgroup to illustrate the difficulty in understanding the notation.
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Homework Statement



(a) For SU(N), we have:
N ⊗ N = A_A + S_S
where A corresponds to a field with two antisymetric fundamental SU(N) in- dices φij = −φji, and S corresponds to a field with two symmetric fundamental SU(N) indices φij = φji. By considering an SU(2) subgroup of SU(N), compute T(A) and T(S).

Homework Equations



Under the SU(2) subgroup, N transforms as:

[2 ⊕ (N − 2)1S] ⊗ [2 ⊕ (N − 2)1s] = A + S.

The Attempt at a Solution



Distributing, we get, among other terms, 2 ⊗ (N − 2)1S ⊕ 2 ⊗ (N − 2)1S. It's then just a matter of separating the symmetric and anti-symmetric terms.

What I don't understand is why one of these 2 ⊗ (N − 2)1S terms is symmetric and the otherone is anti-symmetric. They seem identical to me... I think part of the problem is I don't understand Srednicki's notation 1s (sometimes 1's) -- does this just mean the singlet is symmetrical?

I understand Young Tableaux, but not sure how to use them here, the only diagram I can work out is adjoint, and therefore neither symmetrical nor anti-symmetrical.

This is the only difficulty, if we can figure out this, I know how to solve the problem from there...

Thanks!
 
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To phrase the question a different way, consider

4 x 4 = 10_S + 6_A.

Now if we consider the SU(3) subgroup, we have:

(3 + 1) * (3 + 1) = 3 * 3 + 3 * 1 + 1 * 3 + 1 * 1

Now clearly 1 * 1 = 1 and 3 * 3 = 6 + 3_A. So we have:

10 + 6_A = 6 + 3_A + 1 +3 * 1 + 1 * 3.

which gives:

3 + 3_A = 3 * 1 + 1 * 3

But how can this be? Whenever I do young Tableaux, I get that 3 * 1 = 1 and 1 * 3 = 3 + 2_S, which sum to 4 + 2_S ??
 
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To phrase the question a different way, consider

4 x 4 = 10_S + 6_A.

Now if we consider the SU(3) subgroup, we have:

(3 + 1) * (3 + 1) = 3 * 3 + 3 * 1 + 1 * 3 + 1 * 1

Now clearly 1 * 1 = 1 and 3 * 3 = 6 + 3_A. So we have:

10 + 6_A = 6 + 3_A + 1 +3 * 1 + 1 * 3.

which gives:

3 + 3_A = 3 * 1 + 1 * 3

But how can this be? Whenever I do young Tableaux, I get that 3 * 1 = 1 and 1 * 3 = 3 + 2_S, which sum to 4 + 2_S ??
 

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