Understanding Vce Voltage Drop of a BJT

In summary, a transistor behaves differently than two back-to-back diodes when it is saturated. When the transistor is saturated, the voltage across the collector-emitter connection is 0.2 volts. This is due to the active action of the transistor. The Base-emitter diode does not drop below this voltage due to the saturation condition. CE resistance is the resistance of the base channel.
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I don't understand the Vce voltage drop of a BJT.
If I try to think of the BJT as 2 diodes - Base emitter diode and base collector diode. Vce is the voltage across the cathode of the base-collector diode and cathode of Base-emitter diode.
How can it be 0.2V(when the BJT is saturated). I don't get it.

Can it be thought of in terms of resistance, like ON resistance in mosfets?
 
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The diode like connections are between
base and emitter
base and collector

The collector emitter connection is not diode like, as it contains an active component.

The saturated condition you are describing occurs in Common Emitter configuration.
Here the emitter is grounded or held at zero volts.
The active action of the transistor is such that the collector can be set or driven to any voltage between the supply rail and the saturation or botoming voltage (0.2volts in your case). This active action forces the appropriate current through any collector resistor to cause this.

And yes you can work in terms of CE resistance - the term transistor comes from 'transfer resistance' ie the CE resistance is controllable. Circuit analysis is not usually done this way because it requires knowledge of some hard to measure parameters.

This active action is, of course, known as transistor action and is precisely what distinguishes it from two back to back connected diodes. Diodes are passive components in that they cannot force the current or voltage in a circuit, their response depends upon the current and voltage instead.
 
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Thanks for the explanation.
Imagine a NPN transistor. I put the Multimeter probes at collector(close to base) and emitter(close to base). So Vce is the voltage here?
If so, why doesn't the Base-emitter diode drop show up here?
What is this CE resistance exactly. Is it the resistance of the base channel?
Why isn't this specified in the datasheets.
Can I use the CE resistance to compare the power consumption of BJT and Mosfet.
 

FAQ: Understanding Vce Voltage Drop of a BJT

1. What is Vce voltage drop?

Vce voltage drop refers to the potential difference between the collector and emitter terminals of a bipolar junction transistor (BJT). It is an important parameter that affects the overall performance and operation of the transistor.

2. Why is it important to understand Vce voltage drop?

Understanding Vce voltage drop is crucial for designing and analyzing BJT circuits. It helps in determining the biasing conditions, maximum collector current, and power dissipation of the transistor. Additionally, knowledge of Vce voltage drop is essential for selecting the appropriate transistor for a specific application.

3. How is Vce voltage drop calculated?

Vce voltage drop can be calculated by subtracting the voltage at the emitter terminal from the voltage at the collector terminal. It can also be calculated using Ohm's law, where Vce = IC x RC, where IC is the collector current and RC is the collector resistance.

4. What factors affect Vce voltage drop?

Vce voltage drop is affected by several factors, including the collector current, collector resistance, and the characteristics of the transistor itself. Temperature and temperature fluctuations can also impact Vce voltage drop.

5. How can Vce voltage drop be minimized?

Vce voltage drop can be minimized by using a transistor with a lower collector-emitter saturation voltage (Vce(sat)) and by reducing the collector current. Proper heat sinking and thermal management can also help in minimizing Vce voltage drop. Additionally, using a Darlington transistor configuration can also reduce Vce voltage drop.

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