Understanding Wallis's Formula: Debunking Misconceptions About Inequalities"

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In summary: Yes and that's correct as long as \sin x is not negative. Proof: Let 0<q \leq 1. Then you can multiply the inequality q \leq 1 by q^{n-1}>0, leading to q^n \leq q^{n-1}.
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The portion highlighted in the document seems wrong.

(n-1)/n < (n-2)/(n-1)
n2 - 2n + 1 < n2 - 2n

1<0 (WRONG)

So how can I believe what the book is saying?

Now if I let n be n - 2 then I still have 1<0. Therefore the element of (1) is greater than the corresponding element of (2), and not the other way around as the book says
 

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Miike012 said:
The portion highlighted in the document seems wrong.

(n-1)/n < (n-2)/(n-1)
n2 - 2n + 1 < n2 - 2n

1<0 (WRONG)

So how can I believe what the book is saying?

Now if I let n be n - 2 then I still have 1<0. Therefore the element of (1) is greater than the corresponding element of (2), and not the other way around as the book says

It might not be saying what you claim (although it is badly worded); maybe it asserts that ##\sin^{n-1}(x) < \sin^{n}(x) ## for every ##x \in (0, \pi/2),## and that is certainly true.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
It might not be saying what you claim (although it is badly worded); maybe it asserts that ##\sin^{n-1}(x) < \sin^{n}(x) ## for every ##x \in (0, \pi/2),## and that is certainly true.

But it never said that. It says sin^{n-1}(x) > \sin^{n}(x)
 
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Yes and that's correct as long as [itex]\sin x[/itex] is not negative. Proof: Let [itex]0<q \leq 1[/itex]. Then you can multiply the inequality [itex]q \leq 1[/itex] by [itex]q^{n-1}>0[/itex], leading to [itex]q^n \leq q^{n-1}[/itex].
 
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vanhees71 said:
Yes and that's correct as long as [itex]\sin x[/itex] is not negative. Proof: Let [itex]0<q \leq 1[/itex]. Then you can multiply the inequality [itex]q \leq 1[/itex] by [itex]q^{n-1}>0[/itex], leading to [itex]q^n \leq q^{n-1}[/itex].

Well why doesn't it work in the math in post #1?

and is q equal to sin(theta)?
 
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vanhees71 said:
Yes and that's correct as long as [itex]\sin x[/itex] is not negative. Proof: Let [itex]0<q \leq 1[/itex]. Then you can multiply the inequality [itex]q \leq 1[/itex] by [itex]q^{n-1}>0[/itex], leading to [itex]q^n \leq q^{n-1}[/itex].

Why would this argument not work..
If n>0 then we have n>(n-1) and sin(x)n ≥ sin(x)n-1 for sin(x)≥0

is it because for 0≤x≤pi/2, 0≤sin(x)≤1?
 
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Miike012 said:
Why would this argument not work..
If n>0 then we have n>(n-1) and sin(x)n ≥ sin(x)n-1 for sin(x)≥0

is it because for 0≤x≤pi/2, 0≤sin(x)≤1?

Well, yes. If 0<=q<=1 then q^n=q*q^(n-1)<=q^(n-1). As vanhees71 already said. E.g. (1/2)^4<=(1/2)^3.
 
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FAQ: Understanding Wallis's Formula: Debunking Misconceptions About Inequalities"

What is Wallis's Formula?

Wallis's Formula is a mathematical formula that provides an approximation for the value of pi (π). It was developed by the English mathematician John Wallis in the 17th century and is based on the concept of infinite products.

How does Wallis's Formula work?

Wallis's Formula involves multiplying a series of fractions together in a specific pattern. The formula is as follows: π/2 = (2/1) * (2/3) * (4/3) * (4/5) * (6/5) * (6/7) * (8/7) * (8/9) * ... * (2n/2n-1) * (2n/2n+1). As n approaches infinity, the value of this product approaches π/2.

What are some misconceptions about Wallis's Formula?

One common misconception about Wallis's Formula is that it is an exact value for pi. In reality, it is an approximation and becomes more accurate as the number of terms in the product increases. Another misconception is that it is the only formula for calculating pi, when in fact there are many other methods for estimating the value of pi.

What are some practical applications of Wallis's Formula?

Wallis's Formula is mainly used in theoretical mathematics and is not commonly used in practical applications. However, it has been used in certain mathematical proofs and in the development of other series and formulas.

How can I use Wallis's Formula in my own research or studies?

If you are interested in using Wallis's Formula in your research or studies, it is important to first have a strong understanding of the concept of infinite products and how they can be used to approximate values. It may also be helpful to consult with a mathematics expert or use computer software to help with calculations. Additionally, it is important to keep in mind the limitations and potential inaccuracies of using Wallis's Formula.

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