Undetermined coefficients problem

In summary, the conversation discusses solving an initial value problem involving a second-order differential equation and a trial solution using the method of undetermined coefficients. The goal is to find the particular solution, but the attempts so far have not been successful. The expert suggests trying a trial function of (Ax^2 + Bx) * exp(2x) or (Ax^2 + Bx + C) * exp(2x), with the latter resulting in C = 0.
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Homework Statement



Solve the following initial value problem

y'' - 5y' +6y = x*exp(2x), y(0) = y'(0) = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Ive found the complimentary solution to be r = 3, 2,

Yg = C1*exp(3x) + C2*exp(2x) + Yp

But to find Yp is giving me the problems, using the method of undetermined coefficients, I have tried to so far

1. (Ax^3 + Bx^2 + Cx + D)*exp(2x)
2. (Ax^2 + Bx + C) * exp(2x)
3. (Ax + B)* exp(2x)

but with no luck can anyone help me with what my guess to solve it
 
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Taking your 3rd attempt, you seem to be using a trial solution of

Yg = C1 exp(3x) + C2 exp(2x) + A x exp(2x) + B exp (2x).

The terms with coefficients C2 and B are the same, so cross out one of them and you should be able to find the other coefficients.
 
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Cheers thanks
 
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Gypsumfantastic said:

Homework Statement



Solve the following initial value problem

y'' - 5y' +6y = x*exp(2x), y(0) = y'(0) = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Ive found the complimentary solution to be r = 3, 2,

Yg = C1*exp(3x) + C2*exp(2x) + Yp

But to find Yp is giving me the problems, using the method of undetermined coefficients, I have tried to so far

1. (Ax^3 + Bx^2 + Cx + D)*exp(2x)
2. (Ax^2 + Bx + C) * exp(2x)
3. (Ax + B)* exp(2x)

but with no luck can anyone help me with what my guess to solve it
Those are the trial functions? Normally, for a right hand side x exp(2x) you would try y(x)= (Ax+ B) exp(2x) but since exp(2x) is already a solution to the homogeneous equation you need to multiply by x: try y(x)= (Ax^2+ Bx)exp(2x). You don't need the C in (2) but (Ax^2+ Bx+ C)exp(2x) should work: you should get C= 0 using that. Since you don't show HOW you have tried, I can't comment more.
 

FAQ: Undetermined coefficients problem

1. What is the "Undetermined coefficients problem"?

The "Undetermined coefficients problem" is a method used in mathematics to find a particular solution to a non-homogeneous linear differential equation. It involves guessing the form of the solution and determining the coefficients that make it a valid solution.

2. How is the "Undetermined coefficients problem" different from the "Method of Variation of Parameters"?

The "Undetermined coefficients problem" and the "Method of Variation of Parameters" are both methods used to find particular solutions to non-homogeneous linear differential equations. However, the "Undetermined coefficients problem" involves guessing the form of the solution, while the "Method of Variation of Parameters" involves integrating a function to find the coefficients.

3. When is the "Undetermined coefficients problem" method most useful?

The "Undetermined coefficients problem" method is most useful when the non-homogeneous term of the differential equation is a polynomial, exponential, or sine/cosine function. It is not as effective for more complex functions such as logarithmic or trigonometric functions.

4. Are there any limitations to the "Undetermined coefficients problem" method?

Yes, there are some limitations to the "Undetermined coefficients problem" method. It is not effective for finding particular solutions to non-linear differential equations or equations with non-constant coefficients. It also cannot be used for finding general solutions to differential equations.

5. What are some tips for successfully using the "Undetermined coefficients problem" method?

Some tips for using the "Undetermined coefficients problem" method include being familiar with common forms of particular solutions, such as polynomials, exponentials, and trigonometric functions. It is also helpful to carefully check the form of the solution and make sure all coefficients are accounted for. Additionally, if the guessed solution does not work, it may be necessary to try a different form or use a different method altogether.

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