Upward Force required to break static friction

[woodson111]

Homework Statement

What is the upward force required to make pipe start to move?

There is a fixed point and a 36 inch shaft. The force would be applied 36 inches away to the point. The load is 1700lbs. The end point only needs to come up enough so that the static friction of the pipe is broke so that they start to roll and will be close together.

Homework Equations

downward force= 1700lbs
static friction=.78 (not sure if this is right)

The Attempt at a Solution

n=1700lbs*9.8

Forceup=?

 

[lewando]

Welcome to PF! Unfortunately, your question is poorly phrased--a picture would surely be most helpful. Assuming you will provide that, do show the work you have done, so help can be provided, per PF rules.

 

[woodson111]

here is the only pic i have. from the little circles is the 36 inches. I just need enough upward lift and force so that the pipes start to move. Hope this better explains my problem.

Thanks

 

[PhanthomJay]

Use one of the equilibrium equations (which one?) to solve for the force at which the shaft will just start to rotate. Assume the pipes are equally spaced. The pipes will start to roll when rolling friction is exceeded, at an angle that is not being asked for, but which could be found if you knew the rolling friction coefficient. When the force is given in pounds, do not multiply by 9.8.

 

[rwisz]

To determine the upward force required to break the static friction and make the pipe start to move, we can use the equation F= μN, where F is the force required, μ is the coefficient of static friction, and N is the normal force. In this case, the normal force is equal to the weight of the load, which is 1700lbs. So, the equation becomes F=0.78*1700lbs=1326lbs. This means that an upward force of at least 1326lbs is required to break the static friction and make the pipe start to move. However, keep in mind that this is the minimum force required and it may take a slightly higher force to actually get the pipe to start rolling. Additionally, the distance of 36 inches from the fixed point may also affect the amount of force needed, as it will create a torque that must be overcome to break the static friction. Further experimentation may be needed to determine the exact amount of force required in this specific scenario.