Using Argument and DeMoivre's theory

In summary, the conversation is about a person struggling with finding the solution to the equation z8=16 using DeMoivre's formula. They have no understanding of what an argument function is and how to find it. They also provide an attempt at solving another equation, z6=1+i, but they are stuck and unsure if they are doing the argument correctly. Through the conversation, it is explained that the argument of a complex number is the angle made between the real axis and a line drawn between the origin and the point z. The person is eventually able to solve the equation correctly with the help of the explanation.
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Hello everyone,
I'm having a bit of trouble with using the argument function with DeMoivres formula. I have the question:
z8= 16
and am meant to find the solution using DeMoivre's formula (zn=rn(cosn(Θ) +isinn(Θ)) ). The problem is, I have no idea what an argument function is or how to find it. I've read around a bit and found that root(a2+b2)= r and that tan-1(b/a) =arg

but as you can see, I only have a (16) so that b=0, so is the argument then, tan-1(0)? I have several problems and they all have a but no b. However, in the answer section, they all have arguments. What the heck am I doing wrong?

Homework Equations


I can do this one:
z3=-1 as it has no argument (though I don't know why), and is just a matter of plugging in numbers.
z3=-1
z3=1(cos(Θ)+isin(Θ)
z=3√(1)(cos(Θ)+isin(Θ))1/3
z=1(cos(2kπ)+isin(2kπ)1/3
z=1(cos(2kπ/3)+isin(2kπ/3)

and then, since it has no argument, k can equal 0, +/-1, +/-2, +/-3 etc..., you plug in the k and solve.

The Attempt at a Solution



I haven't gotten very far with this one

z8=16
z8= 168(cos8(Θ)+isin8(Θ)) or if I do it the other way
z=8√(16)(cos(2kπ)+isin(2kπ))1/8
z=8√(16)(cos(2kπ/8)+isin(2kπ/8))

and I can't insert anything for k, because I don't know the argument. I know I sound like a real novice at math (I am), but I hope someone can help me! Thank you so much in advance!
 
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Imagine plotting a complex number z = x + i y in the complex plane, with the x coordinate the real part and the y coordinate the imaginary part. The argument is then the angle made between the real axis and a line drawn between the origin and the point z. Any positive real number has an argument of zero, and any negative real number has an argument of [tex]\pi[/tex]. A positive imaginary number has an argument of [tex]\pi[/tex]/2. So, don't say that 1 has "no argument", say that it has an argument of zero.
 
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Hey, thanks so much for your reply!

Using what you told me, I've managed to get to the next question, but I get stuck here. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong. Here's where I am so far:

z6=1+i
z=r1/6(cosΘ+isinΘ)1/6
z=6√2(cos(Θ/6)+isin(Θ/6))
z=6√2(cos(π/12)+isin(π/12))

and so

zk=6√2 ei(π+2πk/12)

The answer I need to get is:

zk=21/12ei(π+8πk/24)

I don't understand at all what happened. Am I still doing the argument incorrectly? Thanks in advance!
 
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I think you're still doing the argument incorrectly. It looks like you have the right answer for the magnitude, since the sixth root of sqrt(2) = 21/12. But what is the argument of 1+i? You should get tan-1(1/1) = tan-1(1) = [tex]\pi[/tex]/4
 
  • #5
I finally got it! Thanks so much!
 

FAQ: Using Argument and DeMoivre's theory

What is argument in mathematics?

Argument in mathematics refers to the angle that a complex number makes with the positive real axis on the complex plane. It is measured in radians and can range from -π to π.

What is DeMoivre's theorem?

DeMoivre's theorem is a mathematical formula that relates the powers of a complex number to its argument. It states that for any complex number z and positive integer n, (cos θ + i sin θ)^n = cos(nθ) + i sin(nθ).

How is DeMoivre's theorem used in mathematics?

DeMoivre's theorem is used in complex analysis, trigonometry, and other areas of mathematics to simplify calculations involving powers of complex numbers. It is also used in solving equations involving complex numbers and in proving trigonometric identities.

What is the significance of DeMoivre's theorem?

DeMoivre's theorem is significant because it provides a way to compute the powers of complex numbers without the need for repeated multiplication. It also helps in finding the roots of complex numbers, which has applications in many fields such as engineering, physics, and economics.

Can DeMoivre's theorem be extended to non-integer powers?

Yes, DeMoivre's theorem can be extended to non-integer powers using the concept of complex analysis. This extension is known as DeMoivre's formula and is given by (cos θ + i sin θ)^r = cos(rθ) + i sin(rθ), where r is any real number.

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