Using negation of an for all statment in a proof by contradiction.

In summary, for proof by contradiction, you assume that there exists an x such that A is true and B is false, and then aim to generate a contradiction to show that A implies B for all x.
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torquerotates
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So if I want to prove. A=>B for all x.

Does the following work?

Suppose for contradiction, B is not true for all x, that is, there exists at least one x such that B is not true. In particular, assume that B is true for x=c and B isn't true for all other x. If I arrive at a contradiction, then A must imply B.


So does it work if I pick a single value of x such that B is true and let B not be true for all other values? This is a little confusing because the negation simply specifies the case for at least one x such that B isn't true. There could be more than one x such that B isn't true.
 
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No. In proof by contradiction you choose one arbitrary case for which you are assuming B is not true.
You are showing that it it impossible for there to be even one case where A is true and B is not true. However, this case does have to be arbitrary, because if it isn't arbitrary then you can't generalize to all x which means you cannot generate a contradiction.

Edit: You don't have to assume that there are any cases for which the implication holds (and in fact you can't, because you haven't proved that any exist), as you did above. It is irrelevant to this type of proof, anyway.
 
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torquerotates said:
So if I want to prove. A=>B for all x.

For proof by contradiction, you assume: There is an x such that it is false that A=>B.

"It is false that A implies B" is equivalent to the statement "A is true and B is false". (This may be the difficult part to grasp. Think of it this way: the only way you can provide a counterexample to "A implies B" is to provide an example where A is true and B is false. An example where A was false would not disprove "A implies B" )

So what you assume is "There exists an x such that A is true and B is false".
 

FAQ: Using negation of an for all statment in a proof by contradiction.

1. What is the purpose of using negation in a proof by contradiction?

The purpose of using negation in a proof by contradiction is to assume the opposite of what we are trying to prove and then show that it leads to a contradiction. This contradiction then proves that our original assumption must be true.

2. How does negation help in proving a statement?

Negation helps in proving a statement by providing a way to show that if the opposite of the statement is assumed to be true, it leads to a contradiction. This contradiction then proves that our original statement must be true.

3. Can negation be used in any type of proof?

Yes, negation can be used in any type of proof, but it is most commonly used in proofs by contradiction.

4. What is the difference between using negation and using a direct proof?

The main difference between using negation and using a direct proof is that in a direct proof, we assume the statement we are trying to prove is true, and then use logical steps to show that it must be true. In a proof by contradiction using negation, we assume the opposite of the statement is true, and then show that it leads to a contradiction, which proves the original statement.

5. Are there any limitations to using negation in a proof by contradiction?

There are some limitations to using negation in a proof by contradiction. It can only be used if the statement we are trying to prove is either true or false. It also requires that we are able to show a contradiction when assuming the opposite of the statement. If we are unable to do so, then negation cannot be used in the proof.

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