Vector Space: Valid Addition Defined

In summary: No. I didn't. I did not state what the additive identity is. The additive identity would have to be (0,1).Oh, I see now.I completely overlooked that part.Even still, I could define b2 = (a2)-1.
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The book says x + y = 0 is not satisfied. That is, for each x in V, there is a y that satisfies the equation, which is an additive inverse. How vector addition is defined, for each x, I could simply set b1 = -a1 and b2 = 0 to satisfy the additive inverse.
 
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The book says x + y = 0 is not satisfied. That is, for each x in V, there is a y that satisfies the equation, which is an additive inverse. How vector addition is defined, for each x, I could simply set b1 = -a1 and b2 = 0 to satisfy the additive identity.

Hi Shackleford! :smile:

The problem is that the additive identity is not (0,0) here. Indeed, the additive identity (a,b) must satisfy

[tex](x,y)+(a,b)=(x,y)[/tex]

and thus

[tex](x+a,yb)=(x,y)[/tex]

but with (a,b)=(0,0), we have

[tex](x,y)+(0,0)=(x+0,y0)=(x,0)[/tex]

which is not what we wanted. So (0,0) is not the additive identity. Can you figure out what is?
 
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The book says x + y = 0 is not satisfied. That is, for each x in V, there is a y that satisfies the equation, which is an additive inverse. How vector addition is defined, for each x, I could simply set b1 = -a1 and b2 = 0 to satisfy the additive identity.

But the identity isn't (0,0) is it? What is the identity?
 
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Wait second. I meant additive inverse, not identity.
 
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Shackleford said:
Wait second. I meant additive inverse, not identity.

I know you did. But you assumed that (0,0) was the additive identity, which is not true!
 
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micromass said:
I know you did. But you assumed that (0,0) was the additive identity, which is not true!

No. I didn't. I did not state what the additive identity is. The additive identity would have to be (0,1).
 
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Oh, I see now.

I completely overlooked that part.
 
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Even still, I could define b2 = (a2)-1.

Oops. What if it's zero. Then, it doesn't work.
 
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FAQ: Vector Space: Valid Addition Defined

What is a vector space?

A vector space is a mathematical structure that consists of a set of vectors and a set of operations (usually addition and scalar multiplication) that can be performed on those vectors.

What does "valid addition defined" mean in the context of vector spaces?

"Valid addition defined" means that the operation of addition is well-defined on the vectors in the vector space. This means that when two vectors are added together, the result is also a vector in the same vector space.

Why is it important for a vector space to have valid addition defined?

If a vector space does not have valid addition defined, then the operations on the vectors may not follow the rules of vector spaces, which can lead to inconsistencies and errors in calculations. Valid addition ensures that the properties of vector spaces, such as closure and commutativity, hold true.

How do you determine if addition is valid in a vector space?

To determine if addition is valid in a vector space, you need to check that the addition operation is closed, associative, commutative, and has an identity element. This means that when any two vectors in the vector space are added, the result is also a vector in the same vector space, the order in which the vectors are added does not change the result, and there is a vector (usually the zero vector) that when added to any vector, results in the original vector.

What happens if addition is not valid in a vector space?

If addition is not valid in a vector space, then the vector space does not follow the rules and properties of vector spaces, which can make it unusable for certain mathematical operations. This can also lead to inconsistencies and errors in calculations.

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